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chipmonk3775
Cruncher Joined: Feb 21, 2006 Post Count: 6 Status: Offline |
Since I joined last month, I have always been a member of one team (Homebrewers), and I joined the team at the same time as WCG.
However, while my points total as of today is 59,606, my points generated for the team is only 57,066. Can you tell my why there is a discrepancy in these numbers? I have noticed this consistently now for at least two weeks. Thanks Fred |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
chipmonk3775 Avg. Points Per Calendar Day 3,311.44444
The Team Statistics are run once a day at midnight GMT. Your personal statistics are run 4 times a day. Try checking your statistics at 0100 GMT. Your personal points should match your points contributed to your team at that time. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
chipmonk3775 . . .
I take it that right after joining WCGrid, and before you uploaded your very first result, you were already registered under the "Homebrewers" team. If so, all your earned points under the team should be equal to all of your personal (data reflected under the "My Statistics" webpage) points and that any discrepancies should be rooted only on database synchronization times. That is, the real-time data will not be reflected in the historical data until after the historical data is updated with the real-time data. From what I have heard, time synchs here in WCGrid comes 4 times every 24 hours in a day: 0200, 0800, 1400, and 2000. Now, it may have been the case that, as a new member, you may not have been aware that there are teams in WCGrid than one can join; and further, that you may have had already sent your first few results to WCGrid before you actually joined the "Homebrewers" team. In that case, those first few results were 'credited' under the "Anonymous" team--the name of the team in WCGrid whose members do not belong to any other team in WCGrid. I hope you find the above data useful. |
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chipmonk3775
Cruncher Joined: Feb 21, 2006 Post Count: 6 Status: Offline |
Thanks for the info - I'll check at 0100z
Fred |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
chipmonk3775 . . . From what I have heard, time synchs here in WCGrid comes 4 times every 24 hours in a day: 0200, 0800, 1400, and 2000.. ![]() You are partially correct The individual member stats are updated 4 times each day However, they are at 12:05am 6:0am 12:0pm and 6:00pm GMT The team stats are only updated once per day at 12:05am GMT and can be accessed at around 12:35am GMT |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Graham . . .
We are homing in with every iteration. If the original (my) post is the 1st, and your response is the 2nd, below is the 3rd iteration. The individual stats are updated 4 times every 24 hours. In GMT, that would be—06:00:00, 12:00:00, 18:00:00, and 24:00:00. The team stats are updated once every 24 hours—in GMT, that would be—23:59:58. All indicated times are nominal and represent the time the update of the database is started (and not ended). Allow time while the database is being updated; checkout the stats about 1 hour after the indicated times. Would the above be accurate enough? |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
andzgrid, 24:00 is not normally used, midnight is 00:00. You don't need to guess about the times the stats are run, we have been informed of such details. The stats run at 00:06, 06:06, 12:06 and 18:06. See this thread for more details.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Thanks for the link pointing to the WCGrid update times.
By the way and this is not about the times WCGrid updates its records or the like, it is about the time itself. There is such a time as 24:00 in the same way there is 360 degrees. The 00:00 and the 24:00 refer to the same time indication and so is 0 degrees and 360 degrees refering to the same direction. The 24 and the 360 expresses a full state returning to the start but this time on another round, much like the number 9 in going to 10. If one wants to express a full round, one would says 10 and not 0. If one wants to express a turnabout, one would say 360 degrees and not 0. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You are arguing using a false analogy. Of course a day is 24 hours - that's not in dispute (unless you want to get into a deeper discussion of time and planetary motion - even relativity). But we are talking of a discrete point in time, and the standard is that at midnight clocks roll over from 23:59:59 to 00:00:00.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Didactylos. . .
It is a false analogy because you are injecting what you want to read into the matter and then force the analogy to fit the resulting mold. Next, the succeeding arguments you used builds on that false foundation. The item we want to measure is how much points we have AFTER some time not BEFORE. Therefore, we take a sampling at the tail end of a day not at the head: Read: 24:00 and not 00:00. And I am not referring nor was it my intention to debate how many hours there are in a day. You are the one who wanted that to be an issue. Thus, on day 1 we take a sampling at 06:00, 12:00, 18:00, and 24:00. That last time is correctly 24:00 and not 00:00 for 00:00 would refer to the following day--day2 or to the time 00:00 of day1--which is not needed to be sampled because there is nothing there: it is the start of day1. The problem with you is that you read into things what you want to read into it instead of listening to people and next give your best effort to make your best intelligent guess as to what they may be referring to regardless of how correctly or incorrectly they may have stated their proposition. And that was my basis back then when I indicated then that you tend to take a very mechanical point of view: you limit yourself and behave like a machine. You are more interested in pushing your metallic ego into people’s minds than you are in listening to them, let alone any honest intention to help. And that is why the need to be agreeable with people FIRST is not a priority for you, and with it, the tactless, and repugnant words should be OK to belt out to people (or so goes the thinking). Witness the word like “unfortunate”, or “there is no need to guess”. Words that are as useless as they are unnecessary and serve no purpose other than to magnify the error, the mistake, the wrong. This is where you thrive and this is how you work: read into people what you want to read into them and then magnify their mistakes. Make it the subject, make it the focus. Throw away what the other person MIGHT have meant. I can sense in all your posts that I had encountered, an undercurrent that speak of the negative, the defeated, the loser, the frustrated, and alas I can sense your ego is also there. When was the last time you said something agreeable or helped someone in this grid or elsewhere? Give it a try. And did you know that you can disagree without being disagreeable? |
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