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TheSwampDweller
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Former Member
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Most of my friends don't believe me aswell but I convinced about 5 people to let their pc run and helping finding something for aids.
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Former Member
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There is an old saying in American business, "No one ever got fired from recommending IBM." In this case, IBM isn't selling any hardware or software. IBM is hosting the servers and is one of the big sponsors of this project. (Thanks and kudos to IBM, by the way) IBM has too much reputation to lose by being sloppy with their security, so they are treating this project with great care.
I would challenge your friend to follow the links supplied by earlier posters, contact his anti-virus vendor if he doesn't trust his scan results (against the FightAIDS@Home download), and ask his supervisors. There are many thousands of computers throughout the world that trust this software, and we don't get any side benefit, such as music sharing, other than helping Scripps fight this modern plague. |
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Loshka
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I am going to show him this proofs on the next week, because I can not communicate with him now. And thank you for helping me.
P.S I think that soon we will have a several new members. |
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Former Member
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Привет!
Посмотри, там много статей и ссылок... http://www.fightaidsathome.ru/pressa.htm Россия тоже в проекте! |
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retsof
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RUSSIAN FEDERATION 169:096:14:00:33
----------------------------------------Members from Russia have contributed over 169 years of computer time to these projects. In addition, some members are in these teams with "Russia" in the team name. A large part of those years could also be counted as team time: Team Name: Current Members: Date Created: FromRussiaWithHelp 2 05/10/2005 i-Teco (Russia) 4 11/23/2005 IBM Russia 32 11/18/2004 Leadmar ( Russia ) 132 11/21/2004 Luxoft Russia 7 07/21/2005 Russia 265 11/16/2004 Russia Team 3 01/26/2006 Russian 0 11/25/2005 Russian Comrades 3 01/24/2005 Russian Kremlin team 2 11/17/2004 Russian Moscow Team ===> united "Russia" 61 11/23/2005 Russian Team 2 12/01/2004 RussianWorldTeam 2 12/21/2004 SnowDesertRussia 7 11/17/2004 TSC! Russia 7 11/17/2004 -------------------------------------------------------- babelfish translation -------------------------------------------------------- РОССИЙСКАЯА ФЕДЕРАЦИЯ 169:096:14:00:33 Члены от России способствовали над 169 летами времени компьютера к этим проектам. In addition, некоторые члены находятся в этих командах с "Россией" в имени команды. Большая часть тех лет была в состоянии также быть подсчитана как время команды: Имя Команды: В настоящее время Члены: Созданная Дата: FromRussiaWithHelp 2 05/10/2005 i-Teco (Россия) 4 11/23/2005 ibm Россия 32 11/18/2004 Leadmar (Россия) 132 11/21/2004 Luxoft Россия 7 07/21/2005 Россий 265 11/16/2004 команд 3 России 01/26/2006 русских 0 камрады 3 11/25/2005 русских 01/24/2005 русских команд 2 Kremlin 11/17/2004 русских команд "Россия" соединенная === 61 moscow 11/23/2005 русских команд 2 12/01/2004 RussianWorldTeam 2 12/21/2004 SnowDesertRussia 7 11/17/2004 tsc! Россия 7 11/17/2004
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kdemetter
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perhaps you could also show him the statistics
----------------------------------------just look at it, at the moment : Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 35,980:335:21:12:52 so , more than 35000 years of computer run time .  |
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Eric-Montreal
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I had the same problem convincing people and I'd like more references from medical / scientific publications too.
An article from a reputable source that would explain in depth why it's really useful for AIDS research (and not just a 'feel good' thing) would be more than welcome. Other comments / questions I heard: - Why should I help 'Big Pharma' to reduce their research costs when medication cost is driven by marketing (the highest price the local market will bear) rather than actual product cost ? - If this was a really important research avenue, labs would buy whatever hardware is necessary to be able to compute it first and patent it. - If it leads to a major discovery, who will own it ? will the resulting medication be immediately placed in the public domain or not ? Generally speaking, people are skeptical, more than I though they would be. Official answers to those questions (mostly the last one AFAIK) would help a lot. |
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Former Member
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Hello Eric-Montreal,
If it leads to a major discovery, who will own it ? will the resulting medication be immediately placed in the public domain or not ? This represents a basic misunderstanding of patents. We are releasing knowledge into the public domain. Anybody can use it freely to develop a product, which they can then patent for themselves. We can slow down research or speed it up, but it would require a change in patent law for anything that we do to affect anyone else's right to patent a product. Why should I help 'Big Pharma' to reduce their research costs when medication cost is driven by marketing (the highest price the local market will bear) rather than actual product cost ? Why not help yourself by speeding up medical research? After all, only a small percentage of pharmaceutical companies' budgets are spent on basic research. Vast sums are spent on clinical trials, marketing, and law suits. If this was a really important research avenue, labs would buy whatever hardware is necessary to be able to compute it first and patent it. That underestimates the size of the problem space by several orders of magnitude. The complexity of living organisms is enough to keep every scientist in the biological field fully occupied for a lifetime. There are plenty of opportunities and not many minds to examine each opportunity. Lawrence |
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Former Member
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"If this was a really important research avenue, labs would buy whatever hardware is necessary to be able to compute it first and patent it. "
I dont no of any labs with several hundred thousand computers all going at once. Cheers! |
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