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Community Admins

An open letter to the World Community Grid Administration.

For some time now, a fellow team member and I have had concerns about the identity of the Community Admins. Our concern is that they may not be truly independant and impartial and that they may be associated with a particular team. Several others have commented on this in our own team thread.

We have known the true identities of four of the community admins for some time but following the disgraceful postings by one of the team members of My Online Team, against the Team Captain of Team Andrax, I feel that the some of the identities of those who "police" us should be made public.

At least four of the Community Admins are members of My Online Team.

David Bell is also known as Lewis Carroll. David Autumns was/is Samuel Clements, Stares has always revealed his identity, to his credit, and I will leave you to figure out who Graham is. It's not hard to do by looking at the posting patterns.

I question the wisdom of having Community Admins that are also members of a team. Considering the outrage that David Bell has caused in this forum duing the past few weeks I now call on him to resign as a Community Admin, as his actions of late in breaking the forum rules have made his position untenable, or that he be removed as an admin.

I also request that the identities of the remaining admins be revealed to us and that those who are members of a team, either resign as a Community Admin or as a member of that team.

I acknowledge that The Community Admins have a valuable roll in these forums but in doing so their actions must be irreproachable.
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Re: Community Admins

laughing
That would carry more weight if you had also been level-headed and non-inflamatory in your posts during the team flare-ups. It is a problem, the obverse of the coin. The teams create a lot of emotional attraction and probably keep many people crunching, but people will focus in on minutiae.

The only practical answer is to try to differentiate between official actions and personal opinions. Can you come up with a list of biased actions committed by any Community Admins?

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Re: Community Admins

laughing
That would carry more weight if you had also been level-headed and non-inflamatory in your posts during the team flare-ups. It is a problem, the obverse of the coin. The teams create a lot of emotional attraction and probably keep many people crunching, but people will focus in on minutiae.

The only practical answer is to try to differentiate between official actions and personal opinions. Can you come up with a list of biased actions committed by any Community Admins?

mycrofth


I don't think I have to. I have never complained that any of the Community Admins has been deliberately biased, that is your interpretation and yours alone. To which of my recent posts do you refer to? I can find no objection made to the three post I have made on this subject by other members of this forum or Admin.

What I am objecting to is the the is fact that forum rules have been broken by a Comunity Admin and that his status as a Community Admin is called into question together with the disrepute that his actions have brought to the WCG and MOT and I don't consider the amount of posting on this subject "minutiae."

If you feel the need to defend your position and those of the other Community Admins, please do so in your real identity and not behind that of a fictional character.
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Re: Community Admins

Good morning, photobytony. Pardon my intrusion into these affairs.

As you may already know, I have arguably been the most vocal critical of some of this forum's policies as well as some behaviors by both CAs and team leaders. While I do not know anything about the events which you are referring to, if you are attempting to the generate involvement by the general forum membership in support of your position, you will need to cite reference posts along with your position statements / interpretations.

It is not my intention to "inflame or incite." It is simply obvious to me that strong differences in views are by no means necessarily destructive and should therefore by avoided. Au contrare, mon ami, it is only through the well-intentioned and well-reasoned discussion of our differences that we are able to learn and grow from our collective ignorance/mistakes. The key to the success of this process is and always will be the right to, and the full exercise of, absolute free speech. This is simply the way we humans work.

Above all, my friend, do try to have some fun in the process, or you will run the risk of the whole process becomes unnecessarily burdensome and stilted. A good laugh can go a long way in helping to keep all the emotionally charged rhetoric in perspective.

Besides, it's free and it feels good. biggrin wink
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Re: Community Admins

It would be nice if this picturebyanthony guy would actually point out a rule that says mods/admins etc cannot be a member of a team and as far as posting unter real ID goes why does scrawlingbyfred not also post under his real name? In fact most bulletin boards actually advise you not to use your real name!
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Re: Community Admins

This is silly.

You're all silly.

The initial problem was silly (so far as I can tell -- life's too short to read so much sillyness).

And this thread takes the biscuit, wins the cookie, and goes home feeling smug. How's that for a mangled metaphor?

I have to add my own worthless commentary, of course. I greatly respect what the admins do (all of them), and I know it's not an easy job.

And why is anyone surprised so many community admins are from MOT? They're here all the time, helping and posting -- it was inevitable that they be offered a level of responsibility.

*sits back*

Ohhh! Pretty fireworks!
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Re: Community Admins

It would be nice if this picturebyanthony guy would actually point out a rule that says mods/admins etc cannot be a member of a team and as far as posting unter real ID goes why does scrawlingbyfred not also post under his real name?
Perhaps it is. Wolfgang Quimby Photobytony, IV

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I also request that the identities of the remaining admins be revealed to us and that those who are members of a team, either resign as a Community Admin or as a member of that team.
Since this account is not a member of a team and not crunching anything, that is meaningless.
Flange Last Result Returned (UTC) Never

Us has not done much lately.
Last Result Returned (UTC) 11/30/2004 18:14:50 [10,441+ hour(s) ago]

The activity is no better from Them.
Last Result Returned (UTC) 02/15/2005 18:54:13 [8,592+ hour(s) ago]

It never did anything. Last Result Returned (UTC) Never

She is not very busy.
Last Result Returned (UTC) 12/09/2005 05:25:47 [1,477+ hour(s) ago]

Why are Those results so new?
Last Result Returned (UTC) 02/07/2006 05:28:13 [37+ hour(s) ago]

There is nothing new from him.
Last Result Returned (UTC) 10/10/2005 03:22:27 [2,920+ hour(s) ago]

New and Old are both old.
Last Result Returned (UTC) 05/21/2005 12:39:52 [6,319+ hour(s) ago]
Last Result Returned (UTC) 10/11/2005 11:20:20 [2,888+ hour(s) ago]

Something did something last month.
Last Result Returned (UTC) 01/14/2006 21:11:12 [598+ hour(s) ago]

Nothing and Never never did anything, as well as name and noname, but there was no Anything to do nothing.

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Re: Community Admins

It would be nice if this picturebyanthony guy would actually point out a rule that says mods/admins etc cannot be a member of a team and as far as posting unter real ID goes why does scrawlingbyfred not also post under his real name? In fact most bulletin boards actually advise you not to use your real name!


Ugh! Just saw this thread here. Forget about the flame wars which was *not* started by myself or any other of my Team Mates. I know of no other DC Project where mods/admins use different "handles".

Not their real names! Doh!

Consider The Grid. Mods/admins use their own "login" names whether they are on mod/admin status or as a Member of a Team.

Scribe, at least you used your own "handle" when you where a Mod at two other DC projects. Yet, you also stated the rather obvious; and that is using your real name. Who would?

Yet, some (many) of you have derided Tony's post here. This reminds me of folding@hades, where the mods/admins where allowed to do anything they wanted to do. Without cause.

Just look at the posts following Tony's thread here. Silly? You betcha!

Sounds like a new "TV Drama" when someone posts the obvious and you get answers like this.
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Re: Community Admins

It's strange that most of the posts are from David Bell's (Lewis Carroll)fellow admins. Flange in my view, you are the worst Admin, check out some of your "helpful" replies to new crunchers, seeking advice and despite your lengthly reply to my post. You have "tried" to make a clever post but you miss the point entirely!

Reading the replies so far it, would appear that you condone the actions of David Bell.
I guess the forum gets the Admin/Moderators it deserves. sad
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