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sad aaagggghhhh ... no work?

17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|Scheduler request to https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/wcg_cgi/fcgi succeeded
17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|Message from server: No work sent
17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|No work from project
17/01/2006 11:10:28 am||request_reschedule_cpus: process exited

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rose Re: aaagggghhhh ... no work?

oops, SORRY Ady ... got annoyed and just posted ... forgot what PC I was on. blushing

5mins later it did pick up some more work. hugs
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Yea, I have yet to figure out the "madness" behind the "whens"of BOINC on Windows. biggrin Need to read through the wiki on it. It will upload a WU when it finishes it and some time after that, it will then tell the server that it completed a result (so you can get credit for it) and then at some completely unrelated time to either of those two events, it will download new WUs (where you're setting the option in to device profile to keep more than just one WU available on your machine). There IS a method to the "madness". Just haven't sorted that out yet. biggrin
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Re: aaagggghhhh ... no work?

LOL - You know insanity has set in when you find yourself manually forcing a results upload (on my dual core machines I will sometimes have two to report, two in processing, and two in the input queue) in order to be included in an upcoming stats run! wink
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Yea, I have yet to figure out the "madness" behind the "whens"of BOINC on Windows. biggrin Need to read through the wiki on it. It will upload a WU when it finishes it and some time after that, it will then tell the server that it completed a result (so you can get credit for it) and then at some completely unrelated time to either of those two events, it will download new WUs (where you're setting the option in to device profile to keep more than just one WU available on your machine). There IS a method to the "madness". Just haven't sorted that out yet. biggrin


Please, when you do figre it out, let us all know ... but use English for the explanation. I can read the words but don't ask me what the mean.

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Re: aaagggghhhh ... no work?

Ah well, it DOES help to read the BOINC wiki ( here ) but sometimes it makes my head hurt hypnotized However, there does not seem to be much in the way of connections between uploading the result of running a WU, reporting the result and getting new WU's. Once BOINC finishes a WU, it looks like it will upload the results at that time (unless you go mucking around and prevent that or the server can't receive it for any of a multitude of reasons). The reporting of the results is a separate process. Thus it is quite possible that an event where results get reported to the server can in fact report multiple results at the same time.

Getting new WU's is another separate process. Big surprise here, if you complete a WU, it will then download a new WU to start crunching. wink Where it can get interesting is when you use "Connect to network about every N days" to download multiple WUs. Basically, it seems that it figures out that, when BOINC thinks it should go download a WU, it figures out that, given the WUs you currently have and this profile setting, you need an amount of work that is basically the difference between the two. If you look at the wiki info for the To Completion Column , the value that initially gets sets there is an estimate of how long the WU will take to process on your machine. If you ever browse thru the stuff on the Messages tab of the BOINC Manager, you may notice message about tasks being paused, a benchmark being run and the tasks being resumed. Just like the old UD Agent periodically benchmarked your machine, BOINC does too. I assume that, just like with the UD agent, if your machine is REAL busy doing other things when the benchmark runs, then that can impact all of this since a WU could get estimated to take a lot longer that it really does if the load on your CPU when the benchmark runs is unusually high.

I'm still missing a few things clearly as I can't help but notice that, if three WU get downloaded, they ALL have the same initial value in the To Cmpletion column. However, if I add up all the values in that column (for the WCG project that is - some folks run multiple projects), that seems to always be a number that is bigger that the "Connect to network about every N days" value converted to hours by just enough that one less WU would take the total below that. I've also seen that these initial values seem to be somewhere very close to my other running or already downloaded WUs. Not sure I REALLY want to understand this in much more detail though. tongue

I've used English. However, whether it's comprehensible English is a whole other question! smile

It does pay to read thru the wiki and do a few searches on basic things. Good info there! dancing
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Re: aaagggghhhh ... no work?

Well thanks Keith, err, I think.

I'm afraid this old codger will just leave "it" running ... the 'box' in question does nothing but crunch ... I still do not understand or like Boinc. wink

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Re: aaagggghhhh ... no work?

17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|Scheduler request to https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/wcg_cgi/fcgi succeeded
17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|Message from server: No work sent
17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|Message from server: (there was work but it was committed to other platforms)
17/01/2006 10:18:44 am|World Community Grid|No work from project
17/01/2006 11:10:28 am||request_reschedule_cpus: process exited

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I put into production today some changes to the server that should reduce the chances of this happening. Please post if you have seen this occur again - espicially if it has not retrieved work within an hour.
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