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Contribution YES - Overheating NO

I 'd like to contribute BUT without overheating my computer. I read many posts about this topic with pro and con, technical and ethic arguments. But I am NOT convinced.
For many people (like me), the computer is an investment, and reducing it's life duration in a significant way is not acceptable. Even if I am wrong, I will not take such a risk.

I do not understand why engineers in charge of Grid Computing do not implement a feature allowing users to tune the amount of CPU usage. I am sure that such feature would help a lot, reassuring people like me to contribute to this great program.

For now I take the following decision :
I am going to stop using this software until a new realease will implement an additional feature allowing to tune the amount of dedicated CPU usage.

I will continue to look after World Community Grid because I like this project.
All the best.
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You don't know much about computers, do you.

Goodbye ... smile
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

Plaplapla,

There is such a throttle feature for Windows client. I don't know if there is such a feature for the Linux client.

Please see THIS POST .

I hope this helps and you will be able to participate in the WCG.
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

Hello MNTechnoGuy and THANKS for the post.

I just tried it, despite the fact the procedure for XP is a bit erroneous. I finally set the value "wcgrid_max_cpu" to 25 (%), I saved this modification, then reboot my PC ...
:-( same result : still 100% CPU dedicated to WCG.

I definitely think "NONE GEEK people" must be able to set-up this feature and feel comfortable with it. The best would be to implement it in WCG.

I am still waiting such improvement to be implemented in WCG before using it again.
I see you are from IBM, as your company is the main sponsor of WCG, may be you could transmit my feedback to the WCG marketing and design teams.
Best regards and thanks in advance.
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

If your machine was running the FightAIDS@home project, the first several minutes of processing run at 100% cpu regardless of your throttle setting. This is a preparation step before running AutoDock. Perhaps this is what you were seeing.

Second, when you change the environment variable to set the throttle, you need to reboot your machine to have the agent see the new setting.
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

Hi Muckshifter
My computer knowledge is not the question. The question is :
How to make things easy, in order the maximum of people can use WCG and feel comfortable with it? And this, without any computer knowledge.
This is why I post this topic in the Suggestion/Feedback section. In fact, this is more a marketing question than a technical question.
Regards.
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

Thank you Viktors,

You are RIGHT, after a few minutes runing at 100%, WCG now runs using 25 to 30% of the CPU. I appreciate your help as well as MNTechnoGuy's.

As I told previously, I am not a "Computer Geek", I am just a bit obstinate. I am sure that implementing this feature in WCG would allow everyone to share an acceptable amount of CPU cycles. And this, without any complex procedure or advanced computer knowledge.

Waiting this feature to be implemented in WCG, it would be great give better visibility of this trick in the existing FAQ on http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=cpuuse
I have to say I read it once, but I did not noticed the last section of the page was documenting this issue because in my mind it was not only realted to the "Human Proteome Folding project".

Anyway, I want to tell you that I appreciate your help ... and now WCG is back on my PC (using only 25% of resources). I will probably increase tis ratio ;-) Thanks again, WCG and you, did a great job.
Take care.
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

Plaplapla,

I am pleased you were able to get WCG running to your satisfaction! We appreciate your contributions to the project and your suggestions. Sometimes it takes just that little extra effort, such as you've demonstrated, to overcome a small technical challenge and get underway.

I'm sure that we've lost quite a lot of folks just because they weren't willing to persist and get their initial problem or question answered. On the other hand, it turns out that those who've joined WCG are just the kind of persistent and caring kind that has, and will continue to, make the WCG such a success.

Viktors, thank you also for your assistance.

The FAQ has the item "My CPU is overheating while running the agent for the Human Proteome Folding project." This implies that the FightAids@Home work units do not cause the same effect, but I doubt that's the case. It also implies that the throttle fix may not apply to the FightAids@Home work units. The FAQ could be rewritten for more clarity on these matters.
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

Hello MNTechnoGuy,

I fully agree with you about the FAQ. By the way I also suspect this forum post http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread?thread=2683
to be a bit confusing about the XP setting. I guess it might be simplified like that :
... Open the Control Panel and then open "System". Click on the "Advanced" tab in "System Properties" and then click on "Environment Variables" ...
As far as I know, there is no "performance & maintenance category" there, and this is a bit confusing. But ... may be I am wrong, because I use a French XP version.

As a last remark, it would be great WCG's web site to become multi-language for a better worldwide impact. I would be happy to write or review French translations if you need som help.
Thanks for your support.
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Re: Contribution YES - Overheating NO

Hi Pierre,
We are trying to get Francaise online this year, along with BOINC and FAAH.

I have to rush now,
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