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adriverhoef
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Workunits with only one Valid result

Saw these two just an hour ago:

workunit 772171335
App: Mapping Cancer Markers
Workunit: MCM1_0241950_0542
Created: 2025-11-02T07:10:03
Quorum: 2
Replication: 2

MCM1_0241950_0542_0 No Reply 2025-11-12T14:54:12 2025-11-18T14:54:12 0.00/0.00 0.0/100.7
MCM1_0241950_0542_1 Valid 2025-11-12T14:54:43 2025-11-16T20:51:49 12.06/12.15 100.7/100.7
MCM1_0241950_0542_2 Server Aborted 2025-11-18T15:20:46 2025-11-18T17:00:11 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0

workunit 772171419
App: Mapping Cancer Markers
Workunit: MCM1_0241950_1053
Created: 2025-11-02T07:10:03
Quorum: 2
Replication: 2

MCM1_0241950_1053_0 Valid 2025-11-12T14:54:38 2025-11-18T14:30:20 2.87/2.89 84.1/84.1
MCM1_0241950_1053_1 No Reply 2025-11-12T14:54:12 2025-11-18T14:54:12 0.00/0.00 0.0/84.1
MCM1_0241950_1053_2 Server Aborted 2025-11-18T15:20:46 2025-11-18T16:55:38 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0


Also, it seems that the 'No Reply' device has received credit.

UPDATE:
Point is, my designated tasks are still in the queue on that device, they have finished and the results have been uploaded, but they are not yet reported back.

Adri
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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

Resemds issued AFTER quorum reached??
In first case, Credit had already been awarded to valid WU's and in second case WU's are still PENDING VALIDATION.

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/772189949
MCM1_0241952_2283
Project name: Mapping Cancer Markers
Created: Nov. 2, 2025 - 07:30 UTC
Name: MCM1_0241952_2283
Minimum Quorum: 2
Replication: 2

Result name OS type OS version Status Sent time Time due/ Return time Cpu time/ Elapsed time Claimed credit/ Granted credit
MCM1_0241952_2283_0 Microsoft Windows 11 Core x64 Edition, (10.00.26200.00) Valid 2025-11-12 15:08:10 UTC 2025-11-14 08:09:11 UTC 2.43 / 2.46 134.7 / 108.7
MCM1_0241952_2283_1 Microsoft Windows 10 Core x64 Edition, (10.00.19045.00) Valid 2025-11-12 15:07:37 UTC 2025-11-18 16:24:48 UTC 2.77 / 2.78 82.7 / 108.7
MCM1_0241952_2283_2 Microsoft Windows 10 Core x64 Edition, (10.00.19045.00) In Progress 2025-11-18 17:31:49 UTC 2025-11-21 17:31:49 UTC

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/772209752
Project name: Mapping Cancer Markers
Created: Nov. 2, 2025 - 07:50 UTC
Name: MCM1_0241954_1515
Minimum Quorum: 2
Replication: 2

Result name OS type OS version Status Sent time Time due/ Return time Cpu time/ Elapsed time Claimed credit/ Granted credit

MCM1_0241954_1515_0 Microsoft Windows 11 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.26100.00) Pending Validation 2025-11-12 15:24:58 UTC 2025-11-13 03:51:39 UTC 1.13 / 1.13 114.8 / 0
MCM1_0241954_1515_1 Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.26100.00) Pending Validation 2025-11-12 15:24:15 UTC 2025-11-18 15:56:53 UTC 1.31 / 1.31 66.9 / 0
MCM1_0241954_1515_2 Microsoft Windows 11 Professional x64 Edition, (10.00.26200.00) In Progress 2025-11-18 16:28:11 UTC 2025-11-21 16:28:11 UTC

p.s. No PROHIBITED messages!

Edit to add: First occurance now shows my WU as ABORTED.
(I realized after the fact, that this message may not have been posted in the correct forum - sorry)
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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

Saw these two just an hour ago:

workunit 772171335
App: Mapping Cancer Markers
Workunit: MCM1_0241950_0542
Created: 2025-11-02T07:10:03
Quorum: 2
Replication: 2

MCM1_0241950_0542_0 No Reply 2025-11-12T14:54:12 2025-11-18T14:54:12 0.00/0.00 0.0/100.7
MCM1_0241950_0542_1 Valid 2025-11-12T14:54:43 2025-11-16T20:51:49 12.06/12.15 100.7/100.7
MCM1_0241950_0542_2 Server Aborted 2025-11-18T15:20:46 2025-11-18T17:00:11 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0

workunit 772171419
App: Mapping Cancer Markers
Workunit: MCM1_0241950_1053
Created: 2025-11-02T07:10:03
Quorum: 2
Replication: 2

MCM1_0241950_1053_0 Valid 2025-11-12T14:54:38 2025-11-18T14:30:20 2.87/2.89 84.1/84.1
MCM1_0241950_1053_1 No Reply 2025-11-12T14:54:12 2025-11-18T14:54:12 0.00/0.00 0.0/84.1
MCM1_0241950_1053_2 Server Aborted 2025-11-18T15:20:46 2025-11-18T16:55:38 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0


Also, it seems that the 'No Reply' device has received credit.

UPDATE:
Point is, my designated tasks are still in the queue on that device, they have finished and the results have been uploaded, but they are not yet reported back.

Adri
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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

After 10 hours, my device is still having 70 tasks in status Downloading, Grumpy Swede. One of them is looking like this.
workunit 776200668
MCM1_0242353_7078_0  Fedora Linux  Error                 2025-11-18T15:04:53  2025-11-18T15:37:50
MCM1_0242353_7078_1 Fedora Linux In Progress 2025-11-18T15:04:36 2025-11-24T15:04:36
MCM1_0242353_7078_2 Waiting to be sent

The _0 copy failed to download its txt-file "MCM1_0242353_7078_MCM1_0242353_7078.txt".
Mine is the _1 copy, showing as In Progress, but it is still trying to download that copy.

Below is my queue. Showing are two (of the 40) results here that have already been uploaded (.), but not yet reported, four running (R) tasks, three that aren't running yet (-) and 70 that are still trying to get downloaded (D).

* Output of 'wcgresults -NCDRPS':

Deadline----------------	CPUtime 	Remaining	Percentage	Status	Name----------------
Tue Nov 18 15:54:12 2025 2:04:21 -------- 100.0000% (.) MCM1_0241950_1053_1
Tue Nov 18 15:54:12 2025 2:04:15 -------- 100.0000% (.) MCM1_0241950_0542_0
Wed Nov 19 00:15:03 2025 1:09:33 0:33:57 56.0284% (R) MCM1_0241988_4598_0
Wed Nov 19 00:19:30 2025 1:06:23 0:36:10 53.1560% (R) MCM1_0241989_5370_0
Wed Nov 19 00:28:06 2025 0:53:48 0:43:55 43.1206% (R) MCM1_0241989_6079_0
Wed Nov 19 00:33:13 2025 0:47:24 0:47:57 37.9078% (R) MCM1_0241989_3491_0
Mon Nov 24 15:51:43 2025 -------- 1:17:14 0.0000% (-) MCM1_0242353_1609_0
Mon Nov 24 15:51:43 2025 -------- 1:17:14 0.0000% (-) MCM1_0242353_1510_1
Mon Nov 24 15:51:43 2025 -------- 1:17:14 0.0000% (-) MCM1_0242353_1615_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7078_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7049_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6225_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7118_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6930_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6412_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7111_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6194_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7027_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_5942_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7084_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6949_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6868_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6416_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_5928_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6917_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6927_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6883_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7089_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7022_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6964_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6595_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6418_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_5967_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6861_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6965_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7113_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6972_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7000_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_5955_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6358_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6359_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7010_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7044_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7061_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6947_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6924_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6407_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7088_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6958_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6361_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7026_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7065_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7075_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_5963_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7124_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6839_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6245_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6928_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_5960_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6391_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7140_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6727_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6836_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6710_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7014_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7050_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7130_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6368_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6951_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7073_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6101_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6979_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_5933_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6247_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7035_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7128_1
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6575_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_6594_0
Mon Nov 24 16:04:36 2025 -------- 0:00:00 100.0000% (D) MCM1_0242353_7063_0

Also note, for the downloading ones, that "Remaining" = 0:00:00 and Percentage = 100%. Is that normal?

UPDATE: Apparently, the BOINC server says that my queue on that device is shrinking, the number of tasks on it is dropping, while my device says that the number hasn't changed since the arrival of 70 tasks that are trying to get downloaded.

Adri
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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

Hmm, strange with your download problems adriverhoef. I just got over 30 new tasks, and they all downloaded immediately, without any problems. All of them 0242357 and 0242358 tasks.

Edit: And afaik, tasks being downloaded really shouldn't show up as 100% percentage finished. Something looks very strange there. If BOINC client or server views them as finished, then it's not so odd that they refuse to download. Maybe time to shut down BOINC, and remove them from the client_state.xml file.
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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

Another case, where someone else's device also seems to get crediit for doing nothing:

workunit 772170954
MCM1_0241950_8356_0 Linuxmint    No Reply  2025-11-12T14:53:57 2025-11-18T14:53:57    0.00/0.00       0.0/56.7
MCM1_0241950_8356_1 Fedora Linux Error 2025-11-12T14:54:12 2025-11-18T14:56:00 0.00/0.00 0.0/56.7
MCM1_0241950_8356_2 Linux Ubuntu Valid 2025-11-18T15:10:40 2025-11-18T19:02:25 1.71/1.71 56.7/56.7
MCM1_0241950_8356_3 Linuxmint P. Valid. 2025-11-18T15:30:36 2025-11-19T12:52:29 2.03/2.11 80.4/0.0

The Error-status of the _1-task was - according to the API - due to ’having not started and already past the deadline’. The _1-task vanished from my queue indeed, eight minutes before the 70 still downloading tasks arrived.

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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

Saw a request somewhere else on the forums.

How do I retrieve the data?

I use the API (and crontab) to find the tasks that have been validated using "wcgresults -daf LOGFILE".
Then I use wcglog -W0f to follow the LOGFILE (NB: wcglog -f uses the command tail -f).
By using the workunit-ID (e.g. 772765562) from the output of wcglog -W I can use wcgstats -w= 772765562 to view that workunit and wcgstats -f= 772765562 -r to post the data from that same workunit here:
workunit 772765562
MCM1_0242009_6131_0  Fedora Linux Valid     2025-11-13T05:38:56 2025-11-19T15:06:07   2.07/2.08    136.0/12.7
MCM1_0242009_6131_1 Linux Ubuntu Valid 2025-11-13T05:39:53 2025-11-13T11:30:50 1.50/1.50 12.7/12.7
MCM1_0242009_6131_2 Linux Ubuntu S.Aborted 2025-11-19T05:39:21 2025-11-19T09:18:50 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0

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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

The 70 'still' downloading tasks have finally cleared - they disappeared completely from my queue on that device - with error code -186 ("Error while downloading task"), while the Error Log was showing "<error_code>-224 (permanent HTTP error)</error_code>". To anyone who helped resolving the problem, thanks!

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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

MCM1_0241655_3114_2 DOWS-7 Pending validation 2025-11-11 17:32:10 UTC 2025-11-14 17:32:10 UTC 2025-11-11 18:23:56 UTC 0.68 / 0.68 71.5 / 0

Still nothing happened?
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Re: Workunits with only one Valid result

November 21, 2025
Volunteers have reported that the API sometimes shows an invalid state for multiple results, where only one result is marked valid, which should be impossible. Preliminary investigation points to the new MCM1 assimilation procedure interacting with the transitioner. The new MCM1 assimilation procedure acts to validate and credit all in progress results for a workunit as soon as it has consumed any pair/quorum of files, whether original 0 and 1 results or resends 2 and up, that have passed validation. We will review this issue in full and report our findings, whether a bug in the assimilator, or poorly modeled interaction between assimilator transactions and the transitioner, which is where we expect to find an explanation.
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