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Perhaps some users who have deliberately disabled alt_platform in their client could say whether they actually get any retries at present and, if so, has it respected the "64-bit only" constraint? There are certainly still enough retries available, with download errors and [too many] missed deadline tasks...

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I have disabled the alt_platform, on my Windows 8.1 computer, and I almost never get any resends, perhaps once/week or even less often. However I did get one _2 at (2025-12-16 12:15:13 UTC), but sent only some 45 minutes after the 2 original tasks, (long before any of those 2 were crunched). My task was running the 64-bit windows app. The other 2 "real" Linux wingmen, were both running the 64-bit Linux app. All 3 now crunched, and "Pending Validation"

See: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/792201160

Edit: Then it will be interesting to see what happens with this one, when it's done. My Windows paired with "unknown" "unknown" smile
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/792653745
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Actually the same goes for me, I have element <no_alt_platform> set to 1 in ~boinc/cc_config.xml and received only 1 retry for that device in the past two weeks:

MCM1_0243508_1029_0  Linuxmint     Valid  2025-12-07T00:40:08  2025-12-09T07:29:35    0.58/0.58      59.6/83.7
MCM1_0243508_1029_1 Darwin Valid 2025-12-07T00:05:54 2025-12-10T07:27:24 3.27/3.43 92.2/83.7
MCM1_0243508_1029_2 Linux Fedora Valid 2025-12-07T00:40:01 2025-12-09T12:28:38 1.37/1.38 75.2/83.7

The 3 tasks were all three 64-bit and had a normal 6-day deadline. nerd

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Thank you for information on the retry situation, Grumpy Swede and Adri!

I find it interesting that the retry each of you did get seemed to be the result of an early boost to the Initial Replication for some reason or another (one almost instant, the other after 45 minutes). Perhaps that explains why they were matched as 64-bit, though it doesn't explain why the delayed one got paired with a genuinely "foreign" platform.

And as for that "unknown" O/S data, I've seen a few of those recently. I've looked at a small sample of recent ones and I've found tasks with both the O/S data fields "unknown" and others with "unknown" in one field and something recognisable (but wrong!) in the other field -- e.g. "T" for version or a shell error message for type!

I've not seen much to suggest that a client request would send "unknown" to the server, so I presume the "unknown" value (as provided by the API) is used if there's an empty tag in the request (or something else causes the server to not collect a value!)

Cheers - Al.
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Beta MAM units showing on WUProp, not sure if real or "ghosts" from PC just turned back on.
Edit: Count has gone up from 39 to 56 so may be real.
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We have not crossed paths with any in months. I hope to see them soon, but I really would like to see validation issues resolved. Maybe a few were sent, but I would expect to see more out there if they are sending beta work.
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My contributions/badges in all projects have suddenly appeared doubled - credited with 100 years on Mapping Cancer Markers with a true total of 68 years, for example. Even old and finished projects within WCG are affected. How did this happen, & will it revert to the true values at some point? All changes are dated Dec 13 2025.
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Re Beta MAM1 showing up in WUProp -- something similar happened back in late August 2025 and it was briefly discussed in a previous Project Status thread

As there had been no changes to the WCG Project statistics for Beta Testing since mid-May (nothing further being validated...) it wasn't possible to tell whether work was actually sent in to WCG at that point in time. On the assumption that it wasn't someone faking WUProp results, I suspect that was a case of a WUProp user whose machine had been offline for some time and hadn't reported in some (completed?) work.

Now this time round, it seems unlikely that new Beta work would be sent out unannounced, and (as before) we haven't yet seen anyone posting "Hey, I got MAM1 Beta jobs!". So it is probably effectively a ghost -- sorry about that...

Cheers - Al.
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Congrats Andy Nicholl on your new temporary badges. This is a bug that has been popping up now and then. You will be restored to your original status at some point.
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Here is something odd.

World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0845_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 16.7 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0713_1 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 25.0 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_2024_1 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 25.0 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0828_1 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 25.0 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0708_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 16.7 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8285_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 16.7 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0841_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 25.0 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_2015_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 16.7 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_2028_1 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:32:34 PM 25.0 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0835_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0707_0 00:00:03 (00:00:04) 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 11.1 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0831_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 25.0 Ready to report VMBLACK-BL
Asteroids@home 102.17 Period Search Application (cuda118_win10) ps_251203_input_93311_27_0 00:19:04 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:30:34 PM 213.98 MB 0.5 Ready to report BLACK
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_9401_0 00:00:03 (00:00:04) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 11.1 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_9045_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8384_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_5757_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8426_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8406_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_5759_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8427_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8381_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8402_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_8410_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_9034_1 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:31:34 PM 25.0 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
WUProp@Home 4.32 Data collect version 4 (nci) data_collect_v4_1765509902_410121_0 01:00:01 (00:00:04) 12/17/2025 9:27:29 PM 12/17/2025 9:28:04 PM 7.25 MB 0.1 Reported: OK + VMBLACK-BL
Asteroids@home 102.17 Period Search Application (cuda118_linux) ps_251203_input_91877_57_1 00:21:37 (00:00:04) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 206.85 MB 0.3 Ready to report S1B
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0815_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_5786_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 25.0 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_5790_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 25.0 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_5767_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 25.0 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_0795_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_4920_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_3641_0 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_4453_1 00:00:03 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 16.7 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_5768_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 25.0 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_4787_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:26:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 25.0 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
WUProp@Home 4.32 Data collect version 4 (nci) data_collect_v4_1765509902_410033_0 01:00:02 (00:00:03) 12/17/2025 9:25:12 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 5.79 MB 0.1 Reported: OK + STACY1
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_5771_0 00:00:02 (00:00:06) 12/17/2025 9:25:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 25.0 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
World Community Grid 7.07 BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers (mt) BETA_BETA30_9900034_4786_1 00:00:03 (00:00:04) 12/17/2025 9:25:04 PM 12/17/2025 9:27:04 PM 11.1 Reported: OK VMBLACK-BL
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I have many similar to the example below :-

BETA_BETA30_9900034_3208_1 sophia Pending Validation 2025-12-18 05:43:19 UTC 2025-12-24 05:43:19 UTC 2025-12-18 05:48:18 UTC 0 / 0 2.3 / 0
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