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adriverhoef
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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

Paul Schlaffer:
This assumes of course that the researchers will read the feedback from the beta testers (and they really should).

They do, Paul, undoubtedly.
See https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~juris/jlab/wcg.html:
"Unfortunately, these batches revealed multiple issues and in some cases exploded the runtime as many volunteers have reported in the forums."

They may have their reasons to keep their statements there, all in one place, instead of us members making a mess of it on the forums, scattering several unnecessary threads across the board.

If you want real neat and tidy threads, maybe we really should have a moderator here.

To keep it on topic, I've just returned 13 BETA-tasks that ran for 25 to 34 hours from batches 9800028 - *00030 and there are two more running in batch *00010 that are halfway now with an estimated total runtime of five days.

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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

I had 17 Beta's

15 completed in less then 2 hours.

I have 2 that are still chugging away:

Application
BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers 7.04
Name
BETA_BETA30_9800029_0858
State
Running
Received
26/04/2025 20:43:53
Report deadline
30/04/2025 20:44:01
Estimated computation size
28,519 GFLOPs
CPU time
22:48:52
CPU time since checkpoint
00:25:56
Elapsed time
22:55:06
Estimated time remaining
06:21:05
Fraction done
78.300%
Virtual memory size
31.74 MB
Working set size
16.27 MB
Directory
slots/17
Process ID
12340
Progress rate
3.240% per hour
Executable
wcgrid_beta30_map_7.04_windows_x
86_64

BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers 7.04
Name
BETA_BETA30_9800030_0423
State
Running
Received
26/04/2025 20:43:53
Report deadline
30/04/2025 20:44:01
Estimated computation size
28,519 GFLOPs
CPU time
22:51:50
CPU time since checkpoint
00:22:11
Elapsed time
22:58:00
Estimated time remaining
16:11:32
Fraction done
58.650%
Virtual memory size
29.72 MB
Working set size
13.73 MB
Directory
slots/16
Process ID
11308
Progress rate
2.520% per hour
Executable
wcgrid_beta30_map_7.04_windows_x86_64
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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

Two days of run time so far over 13 units on my primary workstation. 6/13 are now progressed past .5%, however all are under 1%. The ones progressing are all the 98000012_XXX_X units.
I'll be letting all run until their natural conclusion. There's another 24 hours until they deadline out.
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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

After restarting the Boinc-Client my Beta MAM Task finished with error
Checkpointing was working (I found the Checkpointion files in the slots folder)
BETA_BETA30_9800028_0652
most tasks of this workunit are finished with Error:
<message>
process exited with code 193 (0xc1, -63)</message>
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After restarting the Boinc-Client my Beta MAM Task finished with error
Checkpointing was working (I found the Checkpointion files in the slots folder)
BETA_BETA30_9800028_0652
most tasks of this workunit are finished with Error:
<message>
process exited with code 193 (0xc1, -63)</message>


That work unit has had a rough life.
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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

I had about a dozen BETA MAMs with unreal completion times of 140+ days on an overclocked i9. I aborted them and was punished with no new work units for MCM. Was I supposed to waste processor time on the BETAs?
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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

Just to note,
The 9800026 series is not check-pointing.
The 9800012 series does not survive a reboot.
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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

One workunit and 112 hours down the drain:

Replication: 0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_0 Fedora Linux U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:30:12   6.17/6.26     96.1/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_1 Linux Ubuntu U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:33:13 6.31/6.31 211.7/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_2 Fedora Linux Too Late 2025-04-25T16:30:18 2025-04-30T09:52:27 112.32/112.74 7456.5/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_3 Linux Ubuntu No Reply 2025-04-25T16:33:20 2025-04-27T16:33:20 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0

Another workunit and 111 hours down the gutter:

Replication: 0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_0 Linux Ubuntu U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:33:13   0.00/0.00     66.0/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_1 Fedora Linux U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:30:12 6.15/6.26 96.1/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_2 Fedora Linux Too Late 2025-04-25T16:30:18 2025-04-30T13:08:03 111.38/111.81 7394.6/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_3 Linux Ubuntu No Reply 2025-04-25T16:33:20 2025-04-27T16:33:20 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0

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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

One workunit and 112 hours down the drain:

Replication: 0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_0 Fedora Linux U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:30:12   6.17/6.26     96.1/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_1 Linux Ubuntu U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:33:13 6.31/6.31 211.7/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_2 Fedora Linux Too Late 2025-04-25T16:30:18 2025-04-30T09:52:27 112.32/112.74 7456.5/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0398_3 Linux Ubuntu No Reply 2025-04-25T16:33:20 2025-04-27T16:33:20 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0

Another workunit and 111 hours down the gutter:

Replication: 0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_0 Linux Ubuntu U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:33:13   0.00/0.00     66.0/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_1 Fedora Linux U.Aborted 2025-04-25T07:02:10 2025-04-25T16:30:12 6.15/6.26 96.1/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_2 Fedora Linux Too Late 2025-04-25T16:30:18 2025-04-30T13:08:03 111.38/111.81 7394.6/0.0
BETA_BETA30_9800010_0402_3 Linux Ubuntu No Reply 2025-04-25T16:33:20 2025-04-27T16:33:20 0.00/0.00 0.0/0.0

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I am not sure if this is any consolation, but you're not alone... sad


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Re: BETA - Mapping Arthritis Markers

It does help, Ralf, thank you! It feels like some compassion anyway.

There's also brighter news, I've just received a few resends from batch 9800030:

 <1>   BETA_BETA30_9800030_0430_0  Linuxmint     User Aborted          2025-04-26T00:30:58  2025-04-26T07:34:15
<1> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0430_1 Linux Ubuntu In Progress 2025-04-26T00:31:20 2025-05-03T00:31:20
<1> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0430_2 Linux Ubuntu Error 2025-04-26T07:34:27 2025-04-28T03:33:20
<1> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0430_3 Linuxmint Error 2025-04-28T03:33:23 2025-04-28T14:20:46
<1> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0430_4 Linuxmint No Reply 2025-04-28T14:20:55 2025-04-30T14:20:55
<1> * BETA_BETA30_9800030_0430_5 Fedora Linux In Progress 2025-04-30T14:21:02 2025-05-02T14:21:02

<2> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_0 Linuxmint User Aborted 2025-04-26T00:30:58 2025-04-26T07:34:15
<2> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_1 Linux Ubuntu User Aborted 2025-04-26T00:31:08 2025-04-28T14:35:13
<2> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_2 Linux Ubuntu Error 2025-04-26T07:34:27 2025-04-28T03:33:20
<2> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_3 Linuxmint Error 2025-04-28T03:33:23 2025-04-28T14:20:46
<2> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_4 Linuxmint No Reply 2025-04-28T14:20:55 2025-04-30T14:20:55
<2> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_5 Linuxmint User Aborted 2025-04-28T14:35:19 2025-04-28T17:35:05
<2> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_6 Linux Ubuntu In Progress 2025-04-28T17:35:11 2025-04-30T17:35:11
<2> * BETA_BETA30_9800030_0442_7 Fedora Linux In Progress 2025-04-30T14:21:02 2025-05-02T14:21:02

<3> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0440_0 Linuxmint User Aborted 2025-04-26T00:30:58 2025-04-26T07:34:15
<3> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0440_1 Linuxmint Pending Validation 2025-04-26T00:31:55 2025-04-30T05:06:11
<3> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0440_2 Linux Ubuntu Error 2025-04-26T07:34:27 2025-04-28T03:33:20
<3> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0440_3 Linuxmint Error 2025-04-28T03:33:23 2025-04-28T14:20:46
<3> BETA_BETA30_9800030_0440_4 Linuxmint No Reply 2025-04-28T14:20:55 2025-04-30T14:20:55
<3> * BETA_BETA30_9800030_0440_5 Fedora Linux In Progress 2025-04-30T14:21:02 2025-05-02T14:21:02

Adri
PS You might wanna ask, where's the brighter news then? laughing
PS² After one hour of crunching, their percentages of progression are:
4.270% - projected total runtime: 23.41 hours
3.250% - projected total runtime: 30.76 hours
2.270% - projected total runtime: 44.05 hours
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