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Re: Client Refuses To Start After Outage Weekend

No project(s). No task(s). Presumably the client needs to start fully before any of this would show and the problem is that it won't start -- just sits there and tries to connect three times in three minutes and then whinges about it and asks if it should try again. Ad infinitum.
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In the lower right corner of the "BOINC Manager" window is a small globe followed by some text.
Currently on my laptop computer it indicates:
"Connected to localhost (7.24.1)"
[where "7.24.1" is BOINC's software version]
What does yours display?
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At the time it showed nothing -- just the message that it was trying to connect to localhost as I recall. What has happened now is the the client is running, seemingly normally. I got a message in the notification bar that there was a message(?) from WCG. I clicked on it to look at what it said and there was nothing. But then I looked at the right end of the taskbar and noted that the icon for WCG no longer had the red dot attached -- now it was blue and when I opened it I saw that there were 24 tasks loaded and in run state (I said that this machine is my fastest and I wasn't kidding). I have no explanation. I was doing nothing on the computer except finishing the NYT Spelling Bee puzzle and playing some solitaire.

I have no explanations. I have no ideas. If anyone has any mystical revelations, please let me know...
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A little off topic:

finishing the NYT Spelling Bee puzzle


It is satisfying to finally get the panagram.
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jmcgaw said:
Client on my fastest computer will not start. After the apparent mass outage over the weekend I decided that this could be the cause -- the client trying to talk to the servers to handshake or whatever. The site seems to be up right now but the client on this machine still goes into a permanent "connecting to localhost" state and stays there. Over the weekend it would get to that point and after a long time the client would pop up a message about "I've failed to connect three times in the past x minutes -- do you want to keep trying." Like I wrote this machine is many times faster than any of the others so I'd like to get it going. Any ideas about fixing or at least troubleshooting the problem?

Are you running Windows? (If so, what version?) The original post doesn't provide enough info. Did you go into Task Manager under "Details" tab and close the "boinc.exe" and "boincmgr.exe" and boinctray.exe" processes, which would hopefully ensure a clean slate? After that, you can launch BOINC Manager like normal, and it should try to connect to the local boinc.exe client.

I normally try those things first. If those fail, have you restarted the PC?
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  • i5-4590 (Haswell, 4C/4T) @ 3.3 GHz
  • i5-3570 (Broadwell, 4C/4T) @ 3.4 GHz

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jmcgaw said:
This machine is running 7.14.2(x86). I've been searching for that 5-byte lock file and search is still running since I don't know which root it is supposed to be in. System root? as inc C:\ ? Anyway I've searched for Boinc- and sorted by size. One problem is that this client doesn't know what project it is meant to be running -- WCG does not show up in projects so I can't query anything in that direction or do a reset.

Oof, not only is 7.14.2 pretty ancient (October 2018), but you're using the 32-bit (x86) version to boot, which limits the science application executables to [I presume] 32-bit. (This may not be true.)

Highly recommend upgrading BOINC Manager/client to one of two latest versions:

(direct link to installers for Windows):
1. 7.24.1 64-bit for Windows (August 2023) - this is the recommended latest stable release. It relies on Windows's built-in Schannel to perform TLS handshake negotiations. Sadly, since 7.20.x, this hasn't worked on my Win10 boxes, but it does for most other people.

2. 7.16.20 64-bit for Windows (October 2021) - this is the latest version that still uses the CA certificate bundle that comes with the application to negotiate TLS handshakes. This is what I have my W10 boxes running as a workaround until I can figure out why using Schannel fails every time.
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  • i5-3570 (Broadwell, 4C/4T) @ 3.4 GHz

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jmcgaw said:
At the time it showed nothing -- just the message that it was trying to connect to localhost as I recall. What has happened now is the the client is running, seemingly normally. I got a message in the notification bar that there was a message(?) from WCG. I clicked on it to look at what it said and there was nothing. But then I looked at the right end of the taskbar and noted that the icon for WCG no longer had the red dot attached -- now it was blue and when I opened it I saw that there were 24 tasks loaded and in run state (I said that this machine is my fastest and I wasn't kidding). I have no explanation. I was doing nothing on the computer except finishing the NYT Spelling Bee puzzle and playing some solitaire.

I have no explanations. I have no ideas. If anyone has any mystical revelations, please let me know...

Usually when BOINC Manager says there is a notification that vanishes, it's the "BOINC cannot connect to Internet" notification, which disappears when connectivity is restored, giving you the phantom/disappearing notice phenomenon.
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  • i5-4590 (Haswell, 4C/4T) @ 3.3 GHz
  • i5-3570 (Broadwell, 4C/4T) @ 3.4 GHz

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