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Taurus Oldbull
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Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

Hi TigerLily,

For several weeks, the number of workunits with a Result in "Waiting to be sent" status grows in my Results list. None seem to get out of that status. There are now nearly 200 workunits with that condition aging in my Results list.

I am running Darwin 17.7.0 (MacOS 10.13.6 High Sierra).

The oldest 60 workunits in my Results are listed below.

Perhaps they can provide some insight to the SCC team about stuck workunits.

Thanks, Taurus

Days
Waiting Waiting resultName
9.3 SCC1_0004251_FLI1-A_64134_2
9.3 SCC1_0004242_FLI1-A_75418_2
5.9 SCC1_0004233_FLI1-A_45014_2
5.9 SCC1_0004234_FLI1-A_38538_2
5.7 SCC1_0004251_FLI1-A_59514_2
8.0 SCC1_0004249_FLI1-A_43910_2
9.5 SCC1_0004251_FLI1-A_47854_2
6.8 SCC1_0004233_FLI1-A_34298_2
8.1 SCC1_0004232_FLI1-A_60373_2
6.7 SCC1_0004249_FLI1-A_56678_2
8.9 SCC1_0004249_FLI1-A_54013_2
7.4 SCC1_0004232_FLI1-A_50560_2
8.0 SCC1_0004249_FLI1-A_51124_2
5.9 SCC1_0004241_FLI1-A_53676_2
5.1 SCC1_0004247_FLI1-A_84670_3
8.2 SCC1_0004232_FLI1-A_30373_2
6.1 SCC1_0004242_FLI1-A_46162_2
9.6 SCC1_0004242_FLI1-A_42828_2
6.5 SCC1_0004234_FLI1-A_6359_2
3.3 SCC1_0004249_FLI1-A_5370_2
6.5 SCC1_0004247_FLI1-A_67678_2
6.5 SCC1_0004251_FLI1-A_13834_2
6.4 SCC1_0004250_FLI1-A_1348_3
9.8 SCC1_0004243_FLI1-A_31097_2
11.1 SCC1_0004246_FLI1-A_46603_2
6.9 SCC1_0004242_FLI1-A_59969_2
11.1 SCC1_0004246_FLI1-A_3930_2
10.2 SCC1_0004247_FLI1-A_31212_2
7.1 SCC1_0004243_FLI1-A_90852_3
6.7 SCC1_0004231_FLI1-A_60117_3
8.1 SCC1_0004245_FLI1-A_87471_2
11.8 SCC1_0004229_FLI1-A_88231_2
12.1 SCC1_0004229_FLI1-A_25605_2
6.5 SCC1_0004229_FLI1-A_19954_3
8.1 SCC1_0004245_FLI1-A_51612_3
8.7 SCC1_0004229_FLI1-A_44274_2
11.8 SCC1_0004229_FLI1-A_69979_2
12.6 SCC1_0004228_FLI1-A_59405_2
13.7 SCC1_0004225_FLI1-A_73871_2
9.4 SCC1_0004225_FLI1-A_69425_2
14.1 SCC1_0004226_FLI1-A_47660_2
9.5 SCC1_0004225_FLI1-A_52435_2
10.6 SCC1_0004205_MyoD1-C_13871_2
14.6 SCC1_0004225_FLI1-A_45646_2
3.7 SCC1_0004206_MyoD1-C_26325_2
12.5 SCC1_0004195_MyoD1-C_64367_2
14.8 SCC1_0004192_MyoD1-C_34943_2
11.3 SCC1_0004225_FLI1-A_98232_2
11.4 SCC1_0004206_MyoD1-C_55646_2
11.4 SCC1_0004225_FLI1-A_66570_2
15.3 SCC1_0004210_MyoD1-C_72021_2
13.9 SCC1_0004209_MyoD1-C_99263_2
15.1 SCC1_0004194_MyoD1-C_92771_2
12.0 SCC1_0004225_FLI1-A_10660_2
12.7 SCC1_0004194_MyoD1-C_64253_2
6.8 SCC1_0004194_MyoD1-C_61826_3
15.5 SCC1_0004211_MyoD1-C_55276_2
14.4 SCC1_0004192_MyoD1-C_30592_2
12.5 SCC1_0004197_MyoD1-C_83159_2
16.8 SCC1_0004201_MyoD1-C_58199_2
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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

I'll provide a link to one of my many WUs stuck in the same "hole"

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/351945109
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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

Thanks, Taurus Oldbull; it was well worth flagging this up in a new thread with an explicit, relevant, title! (And I see Unixchick has popped in with an example as I was about to post this!)

The subject has come up before, perhaps not in the most obvious places, but that is fairly typical of some of these forums :-)

Here are a couple of links to [sections of] other threads that might be of interest (with related data and discussions):

hchc in the No Work? thread in this forum;

bfmorse in the 2023-08-17 Update (Weekend work unit shortage and OPNG issue) thread in the News forum.


Cheers - Al.
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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

SCC1_0004242_FLI1-A_83353
SCC1_0004242_FLI1-A_83353
SCC1_0004265_FLI1-B_86127

A few more example - Pending Verification & Validation

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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

Greetings, I have 4 workunits from the 21st-22nd of August stuck in a "Pending Verification" state & another waiting for validation due to this particular issue.

SCC1_0004250_FLI1-A_52542 - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/358216702
SCC1_0004223_FLI1-A_49882 - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/356624364
SCC1_0004223_FLI1-A_32316 - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/356587376
SCC1_0004223_FLI1-A_27106 - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/356576366
SCC1_0004223_FLI1-A_72990 - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/356673735

Kind Regards, -- Tom smile
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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

Judging by the lack of new work and the number of "Tasks are committed to other platforms" messages I'm seeing at the moment, it might finally be getting round to clearing the backlog of retries.

Unfortunately, because of the "other platforms" barrier it may take longer to send out any given thousand retries than it does to issue the same number of new tasks -- we need to be patient regarding fewer tasks being available whilst the retries clear (even though that means sending out more new SCC1 work might be counterproductive at present...)

Of course, if they undo whatever it is that has caused high numbers of SCC1 retries to stall recently[1] and/or if some users stopped loading so much work that lots of tasks miss deadlines[2]... :-)

Cheers - Al.

[1] The stalling problem appeared to start after action was taken to mitigate the "out of work over the weekend" problem for SCC1

[2] Not going to happen, is it :-) -- and the "too much work" issue may not always be because of deliberate user choice anyway...
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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

Judging by the lack of new work and the number of "Tasks are committed to other platforms" messages I'm seeing at the moment, it might finally be getting round to clearing the backlog of retries.

Indeed, (only) one of my delayed tasks — that was returned on the 15th of August — has finally found a partner (wingman):
workunit 351588138
SCC1_0004204_MyoD1-C_24999_0  Fedora Linux  Valid  2023-08-10T20:14:25  2023-08-15T07:45:22
SCC1_0004204_MyoD1-C_24999_1 Linux Debian Valid 2023-09-03T12:42:24 2023-09-03T13:30:11
(and then it didn't take long for both to turn Valid.)

Just as I was saying "only one task", there was more movement, these pending tasks have finally found a wingman:
workunit 351624767
SCC1_0004202_MyoD1-C_38304_0  Fedora Linux  P.Ver  2023-08-10T21:06:35  2023-08-15T08:32:31
SCC1_0004202_MyoD1-C_38304_1 Linux Ubuntu InPrg 2023-09-03T15:25:00 2023-09-06T15:25:00
workunit 351655709
SCC1_0004204_MyoD1-C_29380_0  Fedora Linux  P.Ver  2023-08-10T21:45:34  2023-08-15T09:43:34
SCC1_0004204_MyoD1-C_29380_1 Linux Ubuntu InPrg 2023-09-03T15:25:12 2023-09-06T15:25:12
workunit 351684302
SCC1_0004202_MyoD1-C_42452_0  Fedora Linux  P.Ver  2023-08-10T22:24:49  2023-08-15T11:00:51
SCC1_0004202_MyoD1-C_42452_1 Linuxmint InPrg 2023-09-03T15:25:21 2023-09-06T15:25:21

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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

I have three work units with a wingman in 'Waiting to be sent' status. My guess is they were manually stopped during the last outage.

Can someone on the Tech team move them along please?

SCC1_0004226_FLI1-A_38119 returned 2023-08-16
SCC1_0004238_FLI1-A_39742 returned 2023-08-24
SCC1_0004250_FLI1-A_99603 returned 2023-08-25

Thanks!
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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

I also have a list of 'waiting to be sent' work units:

SCC1_0004288_FLI1-B_48461_0
SCC1_0004294_FLI1-B_17780_1
SCC1_0004270_FLI1-B_84328_2
SCC1_0004275_FLI1-B_78773_2
SCC1_0004275_FLI1-B_78759_2
SCC1_0004270_FLI1-B_84327_2
SCC1_0004270_FLI1-B_84329_2
SCC1_0004280_FLI1-B_66509_1
SCC1_0004270_FLI1-B_84334_2
SCC1_0004275_FLI1-B_78771_2
SCC1_0004280_FLI1-B_66174_1
SCC1_0004274_FLI1-B_64162_1
SCC1_0004294_FLI1-B_67312_1
SCC1_0004237_FLI1-A_72244_0
SCC1_9191920_MyoD1-C_31389_0
SCC1_9191920_MyoD1-C_29518_0
SCC1_0004239_FLI1-A_73699_0
SCC1_0004237_FLI1-A_51344_0
SCC1_0004251_FLI1-A_88239_0
SCC1_0004244_FLI1-A_95690_0
SCC1_0004230_FLI1-A_99032_0
SCC1_0004229_FLI1-A_55977_0
SCC1_0004228_FLI1-A_79178_0

The earliest of these were returned by me on 20th August.
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Re: Workunits piling up for weeks in "Waiting to be sent" status

I'm getting only SCC resends at the moment. My "waiting to be sent" link earlier in this thread has been sent out and returned.

I still have more in the "waiting to be sent" queue, but I'm hopefully now that my oldest one has now been sent.
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