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kcharuso
Cruncher Joined: Jun 3, 2013 Post Count: 7 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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hi all,
im trying to figure out what kind of setup would yield 5 million+ point/day if it is not crunch by a data center type computer. is there a secret ingredient to this many millions points/day that i have not figure out in almost 10 years of crunching? i dont know, someone please educate me. thank you :) |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7545 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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hi all, im trying to figure out what kind of setup would yield 5 million+ point/day if it is not crunch by a data center type computer. is there a secret ingredient to this many millions points/day that i have not figure out in almost 10 years of crunching? i dont know, someone please educate me. thank you :) To get to that level requires both a significant amount of hardware and the availability of the work units. An important part of that hardware would be several fairly advanced GPU's and a steady supply of GPU work units. In addition, I would estimate you would need about 4000 threads at about 50 points per hour per thread. More modern processors would get more points than this per hour so would require fewer threads. There would also be the cost of electricity to power all of these which would be significant. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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davidak.de
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I have an AMD RX 6600XT. It needs 3:20 minutes to complete one OPNG WU. One WU gives about 1000 points. I don't always get enough GPU WUs.
Together with my other 38 CPU cores, i get about 1 million points a day. So you would need this times 5. Some time ago i build very cheap workstations with 40 threads. I had about 118 threads in total, all working on OPN WUs. I got about 500,000 points a day. One of the 40 thread workstations costed me 500 euro (built from used parts), but the energy for all machines also costed 500 euro for 3 month! So i stopped them. So, electricity for one year is more expensive than the hardware, at least here in germany/europe. Maybe you can get free electricity in your company or university. |
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mbotmiller
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hi all, im trying to figure out what kind of setup would yield 5 million+ point/day if it is not crunch by a data center type computer. is there a secret ingredient to this many millions points/day that i have not figure out in almost 10 years of crunching? i dont know, someone please educate me. thank you :) As Sgt.Joe and davidak.de mentioned, GPUs might be playing a huge part in those crazy-high numbers you're seeing. I have a system with an Intel Core i7-10700 CPU (eight cores, sixteen threads - nothing too fancy) and a Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Ti GPU (a mid-range card that probably retails around $400-600 USD right now). You can set up your GPU to be able to process multiple OPNG units simultaneously - I found that with my GPU, configuring BOINC to allow 16 simultaneous OPNG work units to run was the sweet spot - essentially matching one CPU thread with each GPU work unit. Back when WCG did a "stress test" of the grid between April 27 and May 4 of 2021 and unleashed essentially unlimited OPNG work units, this one system of mine was able to hit about 18 million points/day just by itself. It draws about 350 watts under full CPU + GPU load, so it was using about 8.4 kWh/day and 2.1 million points/kWh. Thankfully I was powering it with excess solar electricity at the time, so the financial hit wasn't too bad. As Sgt.Joe alluded to, the availability of work units is key though. Since that brief stress test of WCG back in 2021, there usually is only a trickle of OPNG GPU work units and many more GPUs available on the grid than there are GPU work units to crunch, so even if one has a decent GPU these days, there won't necessarily be a lot of WCG GPU work units for it. |
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kcharuso
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Thanks all, i have a feeling that it would be a data center or a research lab that capable of producing such points but i needed a few confirmation from others..... and there is no-way several desktop home computers can crunched that much in a day....i hope
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AgrFan
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 17, 2008 Post Count: 365 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Virtualized BOINC clients and automated download scripts are being used to generate GByte rewards before they end (Obyte). It's also being viewed as a "stress test" opportunity for future team challenges. I guess Krembil is OK with this or else they would have taken steps to shut it down.
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