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Thread: Does Pfizer's vaccine and Merck's pill make OpenPandemics useless/too late? |
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mystiquewolf
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Does Pfizer's vaccine and Merck's pill make OpenPandemics useless/too late?
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-p...covid-19-pill-2021-10-25/ |
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Sgt.Joe
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Does Pfizer's vaccine and Merck's pill make OpenPandemics useless/too late? https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-p...covid-19-pill-2021-10-25/ I would say no because the knowledge gained in this project probably has wider implications for other viruses, not only in the corona virus family, but also in other viruses. The knowledge gained here may be applicable to helping to mitigate the next new infection that comes along. Cheers
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Bryn Mawr
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Does Pfizer's vaccine and Merck's pill make OpenPandemics useless/too late? https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-p...covid-19-pill-2021-10-25/ I would say no because the knowledge gained in this project probably has wider implications for other viruses, not only in the corona virus family, but also in other viruses. The knowledge gained here may be applicable to helping to mitigate the next new infection that comes along. Cheers True - the initial remit for Open Pandemics was always to provide a framework for *any* pandemic that comes along. |
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Mike.Gibson
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The title Open Pandemics indicates it was not specifically for Covid-19. It was probably expected to be too late for this pandemic but ready for the next. I think they probably marketed the research grants using covid-19 as a marketing tool.
Covid-19 is unlikely to be the last coronavirus and then there are Ebola, Aids,etc. Mike |
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Former Member
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The pill is not available for quite some time. Vaccine prevents you becoming really sick , with the pill it's only when you're sick already, else you would not be going for one. Clint would ask if you feel lucky, BUT, you can always go for the horse de-wormer (REDACTED FOR INSULTING TERM AND POLITICS)
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spRocket
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In addition, even if this new pill helps greatly, it never hurts to have more weapons in the arsenal.
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littlepeaks
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According to studies, it appears that ivermecten is a good prophylaxis against COVID-19. It is very safe, and appears to be effective. Here is an analysis of ivermecten studies . Table 4 has interesting data on one of the studies. There probably needs to be more research in this area, but the last sentence in this review discussion states, "Ivermectin is likely to be an equitable, acceptable, and feasible global intervention against COVID-19. Health professionals should strongly consider its use, in both treatment and prophylaxis."
----------------------------------------The vaccine does not prevent you from becoming really sick. It reduces the chances of becoming really sick. One the parents of one of my daughter's coworkers both became sick with COVID-19. An the father died from COVID-19, even both were fully vaccinated. The immunity from the vaccine wears off. I attended a virtual conference on the vaccines. I wish I could show you the graphs of breakthrough infections. [Edit 3 times, last edit by littlepeaks at Nov 2, 2021 9:06:08 PM] |
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Former Member
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Please reference an authoratative source not
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l_mckeon
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Also Merck appear to be price gouging. They're asking 43 times the estimated cost of production for a drug that was largely developed with public funds.
No doubt they will have spent extra cash on human testing necessary to obtain registration, but still . . . |
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BladeD
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According to studies, it appears that ivermecten is a good prophylaxis against COVID-19. It is very safe, and appears to be effective. Here is an analysis of ivermecten studies . Table 4 has interesting data on one of the studies. There probably needs to be more research in this area, but the last sentence in this review discussion states, "Ivermectin is likely to be an equitable, acceptable, and feasible global intervention against COVID-19. Health professionals should strongly consider its use, in both treatment and prophylaxis." The vaccine does not prevent you from becoming really sick. It reduces the chances of becoming really sick. One the parents of one of my daughter's coworkers both became sick with COVID-19. An the father died from COVID-19, even both were fully vaccinated. The immunity from the vaccine wears off. I attended a virtual conference on the vaccines. I wish I could show you the graphs of breakthrough infections. And according to the CDC, CDC advisory on Ivermectin The CDC has issued a health advisory warning against the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19. Ivermectin is not authorized or approved by FDA for prevention or treatment of COVID-19. It is approved for some human diseases but not treatment of COVID-19, for which there is insufficient evidence it is effective. Prescriptions have increased greatly, indicating inappropriate use. Overdoses and calls to poison control centers have also increased. People have suffered both physical and mental symptoms requiring hospitalization Veterinary formulations intended for use in large animals such as horses, sheep, and cattle can be highly concentrated and result in overdoses when used by humans. Animal products may also contain inactive ingredients that have not been evaluated for use in humans. CDC health advisory: Rapid Increase in Ivermectin Prescriptions and Reports of Severe Illness Associated with Use of Products Containing Ivermectin to Prevent or Treat COVID-19 |
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