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sptrog1
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We are currently running one climate study. There were three under consideration.
I thought the micro aerosol project was a winner. But that seems to be languishing. Is the researcher reserving his place? The other one was to start in 2021. Is it still coming?
Pausing for data analysis seems laudable. It might be advisable to fill he slot.
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Dear sptrog1,
at first, I did not want to give my view to your post, but as nobody has done so, I will now tell, what I think about "climate studies". It is a good habit in this forum, to reply to every post.

In my view, more climate studies are not really necessary.

Scientists have already done tons of science research. Remember the long ice piles they took from arctica and antarctica?
The ICC report already made it to world headlines.....what more do you want?
Tons of research, tons of studies.

I can see things you cannot see, and believe me: We are spending a lot, a lot of money on energy and climate research.

The reason, why polticians do not act quicker is the following:

Jobs, jobs and jobs again.

Politicians are deadly afraid of not becoming re-elected, because they are viewed as "haven taken away someone's job"

Go to the coal regions and ask coal miners: They will tell you that they want to keep their job, nothing else.

I am not joking now, I am serious:
If you want to do something for the climate, go to your workshop (hope you have one), do someting with your hands there and make a groundbreaking invention.

With this invention, found a firm in a coal region and offer a job to coal miners, that is as well paid as their job now.

Make coal miners stop coal mining.

Climate research will never ever directly create jobs for "men with muscels", blue collar jobs. And this is what we need in coal regions.

If you insist on having a climate project, please:
Chose one on the so called tipping points (i.e. points where climate change becomes a self-propelling process and can not be stopped). As far as I know, it is hard to define exactly where those tipping points are exactly). Or create a project that really helps farmers.
Please do not, not create another simulation that only tells this or that might, might happen if this or that is done.

But remember: Each climat project, be it on World Community Grid or in other fields of science takes away precious, precious scientific and computational resources. Resources, that can help save the live of very ill human beings.

Personally, I strongly prefer projects like mapping cancer markers and other medical projects to climate projects.

That`s all that I have to say, folks, have a nice day and....keep on crunching. I personally will curch as long as I can. Best
Martin Schnellinger
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I agree with your emphasis on health and disease. It would have been interesting to see how the aerosol project was structured since it might have addressed a "tipping point" as in the ozone studies some time ago. It is also interesting to find out that there is not much difference in what you do as in the Chesapeake bay studies we did.
There is such a thing as basic research.
Keep up the good work
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Hello sptrog1,
thank you for your answwer.
Keep up your good work, too.
Your contribution is really big. Congratulations for it.
Best greetings
MS
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Dear Martin,
I was looking to post something along the lines of 'where are all the climate studies?' and I came across this question. I come from Climate Prediction back from early days 2004ish? And I was hugely enthusiastic when it went mainstream, sponsored by the BBC etc etc...
Now Climateprediction is hugely scaled down and does not work (almost) on Windows platforms.
Your post made me think. What we need is greater public convincing of the importance of climate change (but guess that is difficult as there are believers and deniers and as we have seen with the 'I won't get vaccinated against Covid-19 - my body - my choice' etc etc, people DON'T change their minds even when you stuff scientific evidence down their air-pipes).
While I would still like to see something to crunch for in the study of climate change, can I ask for something for Alzheimer's then? :-)

As I said, thank you for your post
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I hate to appear non loyal but Folding at Home has Alzheimer studies going and they support GPU work
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We're here for the science. If we believe the entity carrying out the research is sound, I don't mind my points going to Boinc or F@H. I restarted with distributed computing in a big way when F@H started on Covid. When I found out that WCG was doing it, I moved back to Boinc and WCG!
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What we are doing is pure science and that costs money with no guarantee of a payback. The project scientists are reliant on funding and that mostly comes from governments who are very restrictive on their sponsorship.

The projects also need to recruit researchers and they are often in short supply.

Mike
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Much of the discussion in this thread seems to revolve around the open slots in current research. Is there anything in the wings?
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Thank you all for your continued support.

As we described in the announcement, the first priority is to ensure successful and complete transition from IBM to Krembil Research. We need to ensure all current projects run with no interruption. We are also working on a plan to grow WCG science and the platform.

thank you

WCG team at Krembil Research
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