World Community Grid - View Thread

World Community Grid Forums

Category: Active Research

Forum: Africa Rainfall Project

Thread: Credit way too low

Quick Go »

No member browsing this thread

Thread Status: Active
Total posts in this thread: 7

[ ]

Author

This topic has been viewed 2628 times and has 6 replies

adriverhoef
Master Cruncher
The Netherlands
Joined: Apr 3, 2009
Post Count: 2346
Status: Recently Active
Project Badges:

5 year badge for Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2

90 day badge for Nutritious Rice for the World

2 year badge for Help Fight Childhood Cancer

2 year badge for Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy - Phase 2

14 day badge for Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together - Phase 2

180 day badge for The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2

1 year badge for Computing for Clean Water

1 year badge for Drug Search for Leishmaniasis

1 year badge for GO Fight Against Malaria

45 day badge for Computing for Sustainable Water

100 year badge for Mapping Cancer Markers

1 year badge for Uncovering Genome Mysteries

20 year badge for Outsmart Ebola Together

2 year badge for FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2

20 year badge for Smash Childhood Cancer

5 year badge for Microbiome Immunity Project

10 year badge for Africa Rainfall Project

50 year badge for OpenPandemics - COVID-19


Credit way too low

Lately I've been seeing some ARP1 tasks getting way too low credit. For fourteen tasks in Pending Validation state, thirteen of them have a 'normal' credit (between 564 and 714) and one of them has only been awarded 117.4 credits (on the same device) at first.

Another account is showing the same odd behaviour: two Valid tasks, one has 640 credits at first, the other one only 159 credits at first:

workunit 768583830:

ARP1_0034900_083_1--   Linux Ubuntu   727   Valid                  8/4/21 02:50:12     8/5/21 03:27:07     15.44      463.5 / 552.0
ARP1_0034900_083_0--   Linux Fedora   727   Valid                  8/4/21 02:49:43     8/7/21 12:08:59     15.06      640.6 / 552.0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

workunit 767611946:

ARP1_0035608_078_0--   Linux Ubuntu   727   Valid                  8/3/21 03:21:32     8/6/21 08:23:41     33.68      741.3 / 450.2
ARP1_0035608_078_1--   Linux Fedora   727   Valid                  8/3/21 03:21:25     8/4/21 13:47:43     19.83      159.1 / 450.2
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Regarding the Pending Validation tasks, see here a 'normal' result …:

workunit 770598181:

ARP1_0024234_083_2--   Linux Fedora   727   Pending Validation     8/6/21 08:23:18     8/7/21 02:51:07     16.59      663.5 / 0.0
ARP1_0024234_083_0--   Linux          -     In Progress            8/6/21 01:22:56     8/14/21 01:22:56    0.00       0.0 / 0.0
ARP1_0024234_083_1--   FreeBSD        727   Error                  8/6/21 01:18:10     8/6/21 08:18:41     0.00       0.1 / 0.0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

… and some - in my opinion - abnormal ones, first one Pending Validation, then two already Valid:

workunit 770298308:

ARP1_0035220_078_1--   Linux Fedora   727   Pending Validation     8/5/21 18:32:36     8/6/21 09:46:04     14.84      117.4 / 0.0
ARP1_0035220_078_0--   Linux          -     In Progress            8/5/21 18:31:16     8/10/21 06:31:16    0.00       0.0 / 0.0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

workunit 767625650:

ARP1_0020827_079_2--   Linux Fedora   727   Valid                  8/5/21 19:11:25     8/6/21 12:10:04     16.55      130.9 / 401.8
ARP1_0020827_079_0--   Linux Ubuntu   727   User Aborted           8/3/21 03:42:03     8/5/21 19:08:08     0.00       488.9 / 0.0
ARP1_0020827_079_1--   Linux          727   Valid                  8/3/21 03:41:07     8/5/21 16:07:07     51.00      672.8 / 401.8
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

workunit 768847437:

ARP1_0019150_078_0--   Linux Fedora   727   Valid                  8/4/21 09:13:58     8/5/21 04:10:48     17.07      135.7 / 416.6
ARP1_0019150_078_1--   Linux          727   Valid                  8/4/21 09:11:18     8/6/21 14:35:25     45.64      697.6 / 416.6
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Aug 7, 2021 5:20:46 PM]

Acibant
Advanced Cruncher
USA
Joined: Apr 15, 2020
Post Count: 126
Status: Offline
Project Badges:

50 year badge for Mapping Cancer Markers

5 year badge for OpenPandemics - COVID-19


Re: Credit way too low

I've seen this in the past as well and have a recent one for comparison to show it's not limited to Linux. All the below are on version 10.00.19043.00 of Windows 10.

workunit 765549223:

ARP1_ 0017784_ 078_2--   Microsoft Windows 10   727   Valid                  8/5/21 13:12:59     8/6/21 11:01:09     18.67      574.2 / 348.2
ARP1_ 0017784_ 078_1--   Microsoft Windows 10    -    No Reply               8/1/21 01:11:59     8/5/21 13:11:59     0.00       0.0 / 0.0
ARP1_ 0017784_ 078_0--   Microsoft Windows 10   727   Valid                  8/1/21 01:11:34     8/1/21 20:06:54     18.02      122.2 / 348.2

These are lengthy work units and having the credit reduced so heavily is indeed extremely frustrating.

----------------------------------------

[Aug 7, 2021 6:53:13 PM]

KerSamson
Master Cruncher
Switzerland
Joined: Jan 29, 2007
Post Count: 1684
Status: Offline
Project Badges:

180 day badge for Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy

2 year badge for Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together

5 year badge for Nutritious Rice for the World

90 day badge for The Clean Energy Project

10 year badge for Help Fight Childhood Cancer

2 year badge for Influenza Antiviral Drug Search

20 year badge for Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy - Phase 2

2 year badge for Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together - Phase 2

5 year badge for The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2

5 year badge for Computing for Clean Water

5 year badge for Drug Search for Leishmaniasis

2 year badge for GO Fight Against Malaria

2 year badge for Computing for Sustainable Water

10 year badge for Uncovering Genome Mysteries

50 year badge for Outsmart Ebola Together

5 year badge for FightAIDS@Home - Phase 2

10 year badge for Microbiome Immunity Project

20 year badge for Africa Rainfall Project


Re: Credit way too low

Indeed I noticed such variations as well.
Without willing to restart a discussion regarding credit, there is definitively a consistency problem between the WCG projects (see MCM1 on Linux), between the hosts, between the WUs.
Since I do participate to WCG only, I do not really care. Nevertheless, it is in some ways disturbing to observe such inconsistencies.
As mentioned in other posts in the past, the problem seems to be less a WCG issue than a Boinc issue (by design).
Cheers,
Yves

----------------------------------------

Décrypthon team progress - KerSamson's contribution

[Aug 8, 2021 7:16:01 AM]

rcthardcore
Cruncher
United States
Joined: Jan 29, 2009
Post Count: 13
Status: Offline
Project Badges:

45 day badge for OpenPandemics - COVID-19


Re: Credit way too low

I agree 100%. Credits are way too low for this project considering the length of the runtimes. Proper credits for these long runtimes should be at least 4 times as much. Not worth my time and trouble at current credit rates.

----------------------------------------

AMD Ryzen 9 5950x
NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE
128 GB DDR4-3200
Windows 10 64-bit 21H1

[Sep 22, 2021 3:18:46 AM]

mmstick
Senior Cruncher
Joined: Aug 19, 2010
Post Count: 151
Status: Offline
Project Badges:

1 year badge for Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2

90 day badge for Help Fight Childhood Cancer

90 day badge for Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy - Phase 2

2 year badge for Computing for Clean Water

14 day badge for Computing for Sustainable Water

10 year badge for Mapping Cancer Markers

2 year badge for Uncovering Genome Mysteries

1 year badge for Outsmart Ebola Together

90 day badge for Microbiome Immunity Project

180 day badge for Africa Rainfall Project

90 day badge for OpenPandemics - COVID-19


Re: Credit way too low

I see that I'm also one of those people who are damaging credits for others:

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/835526874
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/contribution/workunit/834980823

My OCd 4.5 GHz Ryzen 5700g claims ~70 credits for 8 hours of CPU per WU, and the poor saps trying to claim ~460 credits for 8 hours of CPU have to settle for 265 points.

Though it appears to be flipped for MCM WUs. I claim 80 credits where most are claiming 60.

[Oct 7, 2021 10:47:03 PM]

kcharuso
Cruncher
Joined: Jun 3, 2013
Post Count: 7
Status: Offline
Project Badges:

20 year badge for Mapping Cancer Markers

5 year badge for Uncovering Genome Mysteries

45 day badge for Africa Rainfall Project

20 year badge for OpenPandemics - COVID-19


Re: Credit way too low

yeah...scoring not seems fair. i spent 2 days on one wu and got 109 credits. on other project would be 10+ times better

[Oct 8, 2021 1:42:03 PM]

adriverhoef
Master Cruncher
The Netherlands
Joined: Apr 3, 2009
Post Count: 2346
Status: Recently Active
Project Badges:


Re: Credit way too low

Quoting mmstick:

I see that I'm also one of those people who are damaging credits for others:

My OCd 4.5 GHz Ryzen 5700g claims ~70 credits for 8 hours of CPU per WU, and the poor saps trying to claim ~460 credits for 8 hours of CPU have to settle for 265 points.

Could be worse, as I'm seeing someone claiming 84 credits:
workunit 87628891

ARP1_0021785_114_0  Linux Fedora  Valid  2021-12-21T15:32:41  2021-12-22T10:16:22   11.69/12.01    566.1/325.0 
ARP1_0021785_114_1  Linux Debian  Valid  2021-12-21T15:20:52  2021-12-22T13:35:49    9.55/9.72      84.0/325.0

[Dec 22, 2021 3:51:56 PM]

[ ]