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Nortnarg
Senior Cruncher U.S.A. Joined: Nov 23, 2007 Post Count: 184 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I’m just coming from a second motherboard failure on a Dell XPS 8900.
----------------------------------------First time I replaced with a new factory board. I was not willing to go a second time with it. So, my initial thought was a bad design or component on that particular board, but then have this nagging thought maybe it was heat related due to running WCG 24/7 at 100%. Thoughts on this from anyone? The new replacement PC is an Alienware Aurora Ryzen. 8 core 3.9 gh. It will run 16 threads at a time which is awesome, but for now I’m running WCG at 50% as Im a bit gun shy now. I have run WCG for years on other machines with no issues.  |
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William Albert
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How do you know that the motherboard failed?
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thunder7
Senior Cruncher Netherlands Joined: Mar 6, 2013 Post Count: 232 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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My experience with running 100% all day long has been good on workstation computers, HP Z600/Z620, a home-built system with an Asus Z10PE motherboard and dual xeon's - those are designed to run 24x7 @ 100%. I could imagine gaming systems such as you refer to are not. Still, if the cooling is adequate, it should work.
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7745 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I agree with Thunder7. Workstations or servers are built to run 24/7. Consumer grade systems, while built well for the most part, generally are not spec'd to run 24/7. I have had, in the far past, a couple of regular, consumer grade PC's go belly up with motherboard problems, due, in my case, to blowing the tops off some capacitors. I have yet to have a workstation or server grade system fail for me. (Now that I have said this, one may go just to spite me.) All this being said, I have retired many more systems for being obsolete than have ever failed.
----------------------------------------Heat can be a killer of systems, so adequate cooling is essential, so keep an eye on that. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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BobbyB
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Why not get a program which monitors the temperature. Speenfan for windows (there is another popular one. I can't remember the name) and sensors in Linux. Then just increase the load slowly.
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Macromancer
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Why not get a program which monitors the temperature. Speenfan for windows (there is another popular one. I can't remember the name) and sensors in Linux. Then just increase the load slowly. For Win10, CPUID HWMonitor will tell you temp, voltages, etc. |
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KerSamson
Master Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Post Count: 1680 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Indeed the reliability of system running 24/7 at 100% depends directly from:
----------------------------------------- Quality of the used electronic components, in particular electro-chem capacitors - Ventilation / air flow, securing a complete and reliable ventilation of all components - Cleanliness: you should clean (vacuum) regularly your machine. A "little bit" of dust can easily makes 10°C difference on critical components. On my side, since I build PC (i.e. 25+ years), I always use Asus mainboards. The only MB problems I experienced was with an Intel server board (S5000VSA) for a dual Xeon configuration. It died within 4 years. I operate 2 Asus mainboards M4A88 for Phenom II x6 which still perform without any troubles since 10+ years. The other machines are more recent but all of them have Asus MB as well. Even if I like to support WCG, I would not run Boinc on laptops since I need my laptop for business purpose and I would really dislike to speed-up the ageing process of my PC. Happy crunching, Yves |
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Nortnarg
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How do you know that the motherboard failed? No Post yellow light gave the 2-2 error. |
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Nortnarg
Senior Cruncher U.S.A. Joined: Nov 23, 2007 Post Count: 184 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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The Alienware I have now is liquid cooled, and does have temperature monitors.
----------------------------------------As a test, i am running 100% for about two hours now and the temp is 78 C / 172 F. How hot is too Hot? I have had no problem with previous consumer grade PC's running 100%, so was thinking the Dell XPS 8900 was not up to the chore. |
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