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Ryzen 5000 plans?

AMD announced Ryzen 5000 today. The basic story is:

- Same core/thread counts
- Same power envelopes
- Better latency and cache utilization due to move to 8 core CCX with 32MB unified L3
- 19% IPC uplift over Zen 2/Ryzen 3000 (41% over Zen 1/Ryzen 1000)
- USD50 increase in MSRP across the board
- No more included HSF for CPUs above 65W TDP

I'm bummed about the removal of the included cooler, but I'm onboard with everything else. I have two machines currently using R7 2700s, and plan to upgrade those to 5900Xs as soon as possible. I'm keeping my 3900X nodes for now.

Anybody else have upgrade plans?
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

I will upgrade my Ryzen 1700 & 2700 to 3900X sooner or later. Once prices of these fall, I think they are the much better deal than Ryzen 5000.
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

I watched the announcement live and was disappointed they didn't mention Threadripper.

I guess with the GPUs and the 'mainstream' CPUs and the two gaming consoles launching at once it was too much to expect.

That said, their newest CPU beats my 1950x so hopefully on average, more folks will be contributing with more cores.
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

I watched the announcement live and was disappointed they didn't mention Threadripper.

I guess with the GPUs and the 'mainstream' CPUs and the two gaming consoles launching at once it was too much to expect.


I think TR has always been announced a few months after the mainstream/desktop products. I'm sure it's coming. I feel like it's been too much of a success as a workstation CPU and a halo product for them to let it go away :)
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

- USD50 increase in MSRP across the board
- No more included HSF for CPUs above 65W TDP
So, USD50 means 50 US dollar and MSRP means Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price.
HSF is another thing. So far I've found Holland Science Fiction, Hispanic Scholarship Fund, Hard science fiction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_science_fiction), and furthermore (from Wikipedia):
"Han shot first", a phrase used when referring to a since altered scene in the first Star Wars movie
Hazara Student Federation, in Pakistan
Hawaii Superferry, a defunct American transportation company
Heat shock factor, a protein transcription factor
Heat sink and fan, components used for cooling computers
Heimler method of Human Social Functioning
Hellenic Sailing Federation, in Greece
Herbert Smith Freehills, an Anglo-Australian international law firm
High Seas Fleet, of the Imperial German Navy
High Sierra Format, a filesystem
Home Service Force, of the British Army
Homer Stryker Field, a stadium in Kalamazoo, Michigan, United States
Hornbaek Sportsforening, a Danish football club
Houston Shakespeare Festival, in Texas, United States
Human spaceflight
Southeastern Huastec language (retired ISO 639-3 code: hsf)
Hangö Segelförening, a yacht club in Finland
Hyundai Santa Fe, an SUV crossover
Apparently it stands for 'Heat sink and fan' in this context. idea
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

I watched the announcement live and was disappointed they didn't mention Threadripper.

I guess with the GPUs and the 'mainstream' CPUs and the two gaming consoles launching at once it was too much to expect.

That said, their newest CPU beats my 1950x so hopefully on average, more folks will be contributing with more cores.


Probably around q1 or q2 2021 they will launch 5960x, 5970x, and 5990x.
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

Hopefully they have a smooth launch! I'd love to add one alongside my 1700x.
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

HSF is another thing.

Had the same question. Kinda suspected. Now I know.

BTW people are buying these for gaming. Right? Not just to do WCG stuff?
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?

BTW people are buying these for gaming. Right? Not just to do WCG stuff?


If you mean globally, then yes, definitely. That's what most people seem to be planning to do with them, which surprises me a bit. These strike me as workstation-lite CPUs. You can buy a whole Xbox or PS5 for what a 5900X is gonna cost new.

I can't say what others who are into WCG do with them. Speaking for myself: no, I don't game on my 3900Xs, and I won't be gaming on the 5900Xs. I game mostly on PS4, but do have a desktop built out of spare parts that I do some light duty PC gaming on.
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Re: Ryzen 5000 plans?


BTW people are buying these for gaming. Right? Not just to do WCG stuff?


Yes, the goal of AMD with Zen 3 is to take over any advantage that the competition has for any kind of workload. That includes single core and multi-core performance, in addition to having the best instructions-per-clock. The only thing they are lacking now is pure maximum clock speed, but you don't necessarily need that because IPC will make up for lower clock speed in most cases.
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