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aexl
Cruncher Joined: Sep 30, 2010 Post Count: 5 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi, I was asking myself if I was hurting the system with my stone-age computer by hogging WUs, returning them quite late compared to modern HW.
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QuantumEthos
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Post Count: 336 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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You have 2 cores and hopefully at least 2 gb of ram..
On linux this is good for some work, Besides that 4000 athlon is reasonably fast.. You could do better but hay, You try & be positive. As to computer you could upgrade another.. & use ubuntu or cent OS **** Open Source Driver for Vulkan : Debian/Ubuntu/Linux https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMDVLK run this after downloading file: https://is.gd/Install_gpl_amd_drivers_sh sudo chmod 774 Install-gpl-amd-drivers.sh sudo ./Install-gpl-amd-drivers.sh |
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hchc
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 15, 2006 Post Count: 865 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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As long as you're returning work units by the deadline, it's all helpful work. It's up to you whether to use old hardware because of the power consumption inefficiency, but every bit helps! :)
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aexl
Cruncher Joined: Sep 30, 2010 Post Count: 5 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Okay, thank you! I thought maybe if there weren't enough WUs for everyone they might send it to me "accidentally".
But my Results are all Valid, Pending Validation or In Progress. :) |
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supdood
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Aug 6, 2015 Post Count: 333 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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There is more than enough work to go around on most projects here at WCG (and at many other BOINC projects as well), and any WUs you finish means that the results get sent to the scientists just that little bit sooner, and we can move science forward and create new knowledge just that little bit faster.
----------------------------------------I also contribute using older hardware (laptops and mobile androids that otherwise would go into the e-waste stream), and have seen how a slow but steady contribution can add up over the years. |
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aexl
Cruncher Joined: Sep 30, 2010 Post Count: 5 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thanks for the encouraging words. :)
I was actually more hoping for a system that prevents WUs being sent to slow HW at some point. (Of course, no problem as long as there are enough WUs. But that's not true for every project.) |
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Dayle Diamond
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jan 31, 2013 Post Count: 452 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Aexl, people want to be inclusive, but their politeness is coming at your expense.
To be a lot more frank, looking at your badges and join date, you aren't contributing very much at all. It's wrong to encourage you to use pricy electricity to do work that can be done dozens and dozens of times more efficiently by relatively lower cost multicore processors (especially Ryzen Threadrippers running certain projects on Linux). You haven't elected to share your economic situation, so let me speak to mine: This is what I was able to put together, with a lot of sacrifice, in a two-person household, one on disability and one making minimum wage looking after him. https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/2571133/overview. If you browse the numbers you will see that by WCG Average Credit per month, I'm doing 271 times your contribution. I'm pretty sure I'm not paying 271 times your electric bill. If there's anything you can do to lower your bills (including cutting down on WCG uptime and lifestyle changes) and put up some money for a fancier computer, myself and others in the Hardware Chat Room happy to help you upgrade. I hope this is helpful! Dayle |
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aaabaaab
Cruncher Joined: Jul 31, 2016 Post Count: 42 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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@aexl,
----------------------------------------assuming a consumption on 100W per hour and an energy cost of 12 cent/kWh the electricity (US average) the old pc will cost you 105 $/year for 567,000 WCG points. For approx the same amount you can get an Odroid N2 (with charger, wifi connector and an sd card). The yearly energy bill will be 6 $ and will generate 3,600,000 WCG points. For a 5 years period: - old pc total costs: 525 $ for 2.8 million WCG points - 187 $/1 million WCG points - Odroid N2 total costs: 135$ for 18 million WCG points - 8 $ / 1 million WCG points So an Odroid N2 will be 23x more efficient per $ spent. Also, if you consider CO2 emissions as important to reduce, the old pc consumes 876 kWh/year while the Odroid N2 consumes only 48 kWh. That's 18x less electricty thus less CO2 emissions. A second hand smartphone or table will also deliver good results while significantly reducing your costs.  |
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aexl
Cruncher Joined: Sep 30, 2010 Post Count: 5 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Dayle, aaabaaab, thanks for your insight. But it's not about points or costs for me.
I find it important to help with the HW I have (and not produce more landfill). (I'm also on 100% renewable energy.) |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
If you set your BOINC computing preferences to not download very much work, such as 0.1 days, then you won't have extra work units that don't get completed before they are due. In this way, you can contribute to the project without being "too slow".
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