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Forum: FightAIDS@Home Phase 2
Thread: BOINC Credits for FAH2 completed tasks,... are you serious? |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I think you should enable SMT (hyperthreading) in your motherboard BIOS. On my Ryzen 1700, I am averaging less than 1.20 hours per work unit, running 16 cores. You are taking at least 0.65 hours per work unit on 8 cores. So I am getting at least 0.65/0.60 = 1.08 (8%) more output. Of course, it takes more memory, so if that is a limit, keep using the full cores.
----------------------------------------EDIT: Also, I am running Ubuntu 18.04 which may help some, but you would still see an increase with SMT. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Jul 14, 2018 2:07:47 PM] |
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Warped@RSA
Senior Cruncher South Africa Joined: Jan 15, 2006 Post Count: 419 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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For comparisons you could look here:
----------------------------------------http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/projet.py?...ightAIDS%40Home+-+Phase+2
Dave
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X1900AIW
Cruncher Joined: Feb 3, 2008 Post Count: 25 Status: Offline |
I think you should enable SMT (hyperthreading) in your motherboard BIOS. Yes, I switch SMT now and then according to testing with other BOINC projects. Below runtimes with a set of 16 workunits with SMT, but a bit lower clock rate 3.2 Ghz, ~110 watts: Improved efficiency?  [ATM 16x WUs acoustic@home 3.2 Ghz @0.900V workload ~98 watts, screenshot hwinfo, the FAH2 AVX WUs pull more power]  [Edit 1 times, last edit by X1900AIW at Jul 15, 2018 1:25:18 PM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Thank you for your feedback and suggestions ...
----------------------------------------Anyhow, I have unchecked FightAIDS@Home Phase 2 from my list of WCG projects and will wait for the 5 running WCG tasks (1 MIP, 4 Ebola) to report their results before I decide if my PC also believes in the revelation which was shared by Agent Smith, when he was interrogating Morpheus in the Movie "the Matrix", is also valid ... and safe my PC from dealing with WCG projects, for good! ... and here is the status of the remaining tasks ... and TBH, I'm not willing to change my computer setup/sitting or do any efforts to boost its performance.  Sorry to say this, but you guys seems not to realize how how much this project is under utilizing the resources. If I give money to a charitable organization, I'd like to know that my money is being used efficiently and effectively. Same thing here -- I'd prefer that the computing hours I donate are being used effectively.  This is over 4.5 Mill BOINC credits in 4 days, from all other projects! <pause>
<pause> I will remove WCG project from my PC after this last task is complete. My Pc is: ...
... and stay on the cause and add it to my android's, since My PC is NOT a Super Computer Regards, O&O [Edit 10 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 16, 2018 10:17:33 PM] |
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Former Member
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Don't be scared of giving BOINC, and hence WCG, the ability to use 100% of your machine's resources. All the tasks run at absolute bottom priority, so anything that you do (like surfing the web) will always get use of the machine first. And it's many, many years since, on an old and slow machine, I had to turn BOINC down. On all modern hardware I never, ever, had a problem. (But I don't run GPU work, or play games.)
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AgrFan
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 17, 2008 Post Count: 365 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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@O&O,
----------------------------------------OET should not be taking 20+ hours of CPU time on a I7-950 to complete a work unit. They should be taking approx. 2-4 hours on Windows and even less on Linux. You have a WCG configuration problem. Plain and simple. Maybe if you tell us more about your hardware setup and WCG settings others can help you optimize your machine. The startup messages from the BOINC log would help as well. That amount of CPU time may be attributed to the units restarting over and over until they finish. What does the log show for one of these long running OET units? [Edit 7 times, last edit by AgrFan at Jul 17, 2018 12:18:44 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
@O&O, Maybe if you tell us more about your hardware setup and WCG settings others can help you optimize your machine. The startup messages from the BOINC log would help as well. That amount of CPU time may be attributed to the units restarting over and over until they finish. What does the log show for one of these long running OET units? Here you go,... I hope you can identify something out of order. MY RIG: (Please do know that I don't Overclock and my BIOS settings is untouched.) System: Windows 7 64bit Motherboard: Gigabyte model X58A-UD3R, https://www.gigabyte.com/Search?kw=X58A-UD3R CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz [Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5] (8 processors) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (4095MB) driver: 398.36 OpenCL: 1.2 RAM: 14GB WUs and Stats     Preferences (Note: I use TThrottle     BOINC Log Please follow the time as there were a lot which went on the log from other projects. 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 4736054; resource share 100 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 13-Jul-2018 07:00:47) 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | World Community Grid | Computer location: home 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | General prefs: using separate prefs for home 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | Reading preferences override file 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | Preferences: 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | max memory usage when active: 7167.21 MB 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | max memory usage when idle: 12900.99 MB 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | max disk usage: 41.24 GB 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 50% 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager) 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | Setting up project and slot directories 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | Checking active tasks 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | Setting up GUI RPC socket 7/16/2018 9:06:03 AM | | Checking presence of 295 project files (Which I don't understand if they are related , but I had 4 or 5 WUs at this time) 7/16/2018 9:06:44 AM | World Community Grid | work fetch resumed by user 7/16/2018 9:06:48 AM | World Community Grid | work fetch suspended by user 7/16/2018 9:08:32 AM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 7/16/2018 10:35:28 PM | World Community Grid | Computation for task OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_73765_1 finished 7/16/2018 10:35:28 PM | PrimeGrid | Starting task genefer17mega_18013521_1 7/16/2018 10:35:31 PM | World Community Grid | Started upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_73765_1_r2014986332_0 7/16/2018 10:35:53 PM | World Community Grid | Temporarily failed upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_73765_1_r2014986332_0: connect() failed 7/16/2018 10:35:53 PM | World Community Grid | Backing off 00:03:34 on upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_73765_1_r2014986332_0 7/16/2018 10:35:54 PM | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site 7/16/2018 10:39:29 PM | World Community Grid | Started upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_73765_1_r2014986332_0 7/16/2018 10:39:34 PM | World Community Grid | Finished upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_73765_1_r2014986332_0 7/16/2018 10:39:34 PM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks. 7/16/2018 10:39:34 PM | World Community Grid | Reporting 1 completed tasks 7/16/2018 10:39:34 PM | World Community Grid | Not requesting tasks: "no new tasks" requested via Manager 7/16/2018 10:39:38 PM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed 7/16/2018 11:08:46 PM | World Community Grid | Computation for task OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_15171_1 finished 7/16/2018 11:08:46 PM | PrimeGrid | Starting task llrPPS_303066298_1 7/16/2018 11:08:48 PM | World Community Grid | Started upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_15171_1_r1603676617_0 7/16/2018 11:08:52 PM | World Community Grid | Finished upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_15171_1_r1603676617_0 7/16/2018 11:08:55 PM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks. 7/16/2018 11:08:55 PM | World Community Grid | Reporting 1 completed tasks 7/16/2018 11:08:55 PM | World Community Grid | Not requesting tasks: "no new tasks" requested via Manager 7/16/2018 11:08:58 PM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed 7/17/2018 2:52:05 AM | World Community Grid | Computation for task OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_64647_1 finished 7/17/2018 2:52:07 AM | World Community Grid | Started upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_64647_1_r1359158373_0 7/17/2018 2:52:12 AM | World Community Grid | Finished upload of OET1_0001146_xMBGP-OM_rig_64647_1_r1359158373_0 7/17/2018 2:52:13 AM | World Community Grid | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks. 7/17/2018 2:52:13 AM | World Community Grid | Reporting 1 completed tasks 7/17/2018 2:52:13 AM | World Community Grid | Not requesting tasks: "no new tasks" requested via Manager 7/17/2018 2:52:16 AM | World Community Grid | Scheduler request completed 7/17/2018 7:47:38 AM | World Community Grid | project suspended by user 7/17/2018 7:48:50 AM | World Community Grid | Resetting project 7/17/2018 7:48:50 AM | World Community Grid | Detaching from project Thank you O&O [Edit 2 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 17, 2018 6:08:11 AM] |
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BladeD
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Nov 17, 2004 Post Count: 28976 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Sorry to say this, but you guys seems not to realize how how much this project is under utilizing the resources. If I give money to a charitable organization, I'd like to know that my money is being used efficiently and effectively. Same thing here -- I'd prefer that the computing hours I donate are being used effectively. Yes, this is not the place if all you are looking for is the highest BOINC Credits. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Yes, this is not the place if all you are looking for is the highest BOINC Credits. WoW! ... is this what you understood from all of this? You can not see the issues I'm having? P.S.: WoW! ... Look at the WCG badges you have! Amazing! |
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AgrFan
Senior Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 17, 2008 Post Count: 365 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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@O&O,
Which BOINC version are you running? Please post the BOINC log entries that display this information when you start the client. Also, click "Valid" on the Results tab for one of the long running tasks and post the output file messages. Have you tried running without Throttle? Are system temps OK and are the 8 threads running 90% in Task Manager? I would change your WCG profile from Home to Default and see if that helps. After changing the profile, click "Use Web Prefs" in the client to clear the local settings. |
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