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Is there a way to disable absentee clients who constantly error out?

Frequently when I check my Results Status page, I see that someone else's client Errors out.

Often times it's with this client version and this exact error message, usually on a Windows 8.1 machine:
<core_client_version>7.2.47</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
couldn't start app: CreateProcess() failed - A required privilege is not held by the client.
(0x522)
</message>
]]>

I find this annoying, since this person probably installed the client and abandoned ship (maybe installed it at work and left the company or otherwise GPO stripped privileges for the client to run as a service, for example.) The project servers should have never sent this client a work unit in the first place, and this is detrimental to the overall project.

Is there a back-end way for the project servers to keep track of a client's reputation and stop sending work units to clients that 100% error out?
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  • i3-8100 (Coffee Lake, 4C/4T) @ 3.6 GHz
  • i5-4590 (Haswell, 4C/4T) @ 3.3 GHz
  • E5800 (Wolfdale, 2C/2T) @ 3.2 GHz

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Re: Is there a way to disable absentee clients who constantly error out?

BOINC keeps track of valid tasks.

When a new application is introduced for every host the number is 5, I think it was.
This value is raised with every valid task returned and reduced with each error task.
When it's zero, that host will not get new tasks that day.
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Re: Is there a way to disable absentee clients who constantly error out?

Bump. Anyone? I'm still seeing the same Windows 8.1 Enterprise machines with client version 7.2.47 Erroring out with the same errror: "couldn't start app: CreateProcess() failed - A required privilege is not held by the client.
(0x522)"

This happens A LOT and these machines need to be kicked off the network instead of constantly requesting Work Units and then immediately failing, leading to a Quorum 2 upgrade.
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  • i3-8100 (Coffee Lake, 4C/4T) @ 3.6 GHz
  • i5-4590 (Haswell, 4C/4T) @ 3.3 GHz
  • E5800 (Wolfdale, 2C/2T) @ 3.2 GHz

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Re: Is there a way to disable absentee clients who constantly error out?

I had this problem on Einstein@Home and was advised to create a profile I wasn't using (ie HOME, SCHOOL, or WORK) and minimize its settings, then assign any erroring computers to that profile..
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Re: Is there a way to disable absentee clients who constantly error out?

@hchc, This has been ongoing for over a year. See threads here and here. In the latter, see the 2 replies from Al Seippel, one of the WCG Tech Team. I agree that it still seems unsatisfactory, though.
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Re: Is there a way to disable absentee clients who constantly error out?

@hchc, This has been ongoing for over a year. See threads here and here. In the latter, see the 2 replies from Al Seippel, one of the WCG Tech Team. I agree that it still seems unsatisfactory, though.

@tonyh205, thank you for the links and background information. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was annoying. :)

It looks like seippel did some research on the overall error rates, which when put to scale, I'm sure it's very, very low, but I can't help but question if this is a farm of computers at the same company or university where they were installed en masse and simply abandoned or otherwise a service account got "stripped" which would prevent BOINC from getting the privileges it needs to run as a Windows service. Maybe an employee quit the company, etc.

Continuing to give these mischievous machines more WUs day after day is just asking for punishment. Isn't the definition of insanity trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results? :P

I realize this is bringing up just a sore subject, but it's ineffiicient to the overall project, and I wish there was more "control" over cutting these machines off the project until they are remedied instead of constantly forgiving them as if they'll suddenly stop erroring! Windows Enterprise licenses are strictly for corporate or university/academic use, so this has to be a whole group of machines that have been neglected.
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  • i3-8100 (Coffee Lake, 4C/4T) @ 3.6 GHz
  • i5-4590 (Haswell, 4C/4T) @ 3.3 GHz
  • E5800 (Wolfdale, 2C/2T) @ 3.2 GHz

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