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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I think I'm going to go for the i7-8700. 30 w TDP difference (theoretically anyway) and a 100 MHZ boost to turbo boost on single core (which, if I'm reading this correctly, both processors run at 4.3 GHZ when all 12 threads are utilized anyway) isn't worth it to me. You can't wait forever for processor upgrades :( every year they get faster and faster, at least on paper.
----------------------------------------Though now I'm reading the new XPS 8930SE has the fans spinning up a lot higher than on previous models. I guess these processors run hotter. Can't win for losing, apparently.
Crunching for the betterment of human kind and the canines who will always be our best friends.
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QuantumEthos
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jul 2, 2011 Post Count: 336 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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what about ....
Titan Computers X199 Workstation https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Computers-X199-Workstation-Haswell/dp/B00YSM07Q8/ |
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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what about .... Titan Computers X199 Workstation https://www.amazon.com/Titan-Computers-X199-Workstation-Haswell/dp/B00YSM07Q8/ My goodness :P. This would definitely be an upgrade too although I'm looking for something a little more compact :). How would this compare to intel coffee lake I wonder?
Crunching for the betterment of human kind and the canines who will always be our best friends.
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7847 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thank you.
----------------------------------------I look forward to this new machine - it's been so long since I got a new desktop I feel like a kid in a candy store. I just don't want to make an impulse by and make sure I'm not overpaying. This looks halfway reasonable.
Crunching for the betterment of human kind and the canines who will always be our best friends.
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7847 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thank you. I look forward to this new machine - it's been so long since I got a new desktop I feel like a kid in a candy store. I just don't want to make an impulse by and make sure I'm not overpaying. This looks halfway reasonable. There are a lot of us who suffer from buyers remorse no matter how good a deal we think we got, because it always seems in few more months there will be something cheaper and more powerful.Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, make a decision and go forward. Good luck. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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Former Member
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Thank you. I look forward to this new machine - it's been so long since I got a new desktop I feel like a kid in a candy store. I just don't want to make an impulse by and make sure I'm not overpaying. This looks halfway reasonable. There are a lot of us who suffer from buyers remorse no matter how good a deal we think we got, because it always seems in few more months there will be something cheaper and more powerful.Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, make a decision and go forward. Good luck. Cheers That will always occur. You buy something and it drops in price soon after. I can go back and find better deals for most of the parts that I built my last system with in August, with the exception of DDR4 RAM, of course I am waiting on the OLED tvs to drop. My 10 year old LCD tv is due for upgrade. |
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ericinboston
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jan 12, 2010 Post Count: 265 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi. Well, I don't know how much you are spending on the Dell or how much in general you are willing to spend. But take a glance at my thread from the past few days about the Lenovo M710 Tiny desktop with a current i7:
----------------------------------------https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg...ead,40377_offset,0#552193 I may just wait until Black Friday or Cyber Monday and see if I can scrape another 5-15% off but it seems like a great deal for the price, size, and power consumption. Sure, I'd love to have some beast with the absolute latest and fastest Intel that came out 12 days ago along with some $500 video card, but that kind of setup seems like it's going to cost $2000+, heat up my entire first floor, be a Tower, add $50/month to my electric bill, and possibly sound like a small plane idling. :) I bought the Lenovo M910 Tower 1 month ago for home as well as crunching and it's fantastic all around for everything I do and crunching at 100% 24x7. The M710 Tiny has the same i7 as my Tower for a much cheaper price because all I want is it (actually a few of them) to sit and crunch. Let me know your thoughts. ![]() |
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wolfman1360
Senior Cruncher Canada Joined: Jan 17, 2016 Post Count: 176 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi. Well, I don't know how much you are spending on the Dell or how much in general you are willing to spend. But take a glance at my thread from the past few days about the Lenovo M710 Tiny desktop with a current i7: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg...ead,40377_offset,0#552193 I may just wait until Black Friday or Cyber Monday and see if I can scrape another 5-15% off but it seems like a great deal for the price, size, and power consumption. Sure, I'd love to have some beast with the absolute latest and fastest Intel that came out 12 days ago along with some $500 video card, but that kind of setup seems like it's going to cost $2000+, heat up my entire first floor, be a Tower, add $50/month to my electric bill, and possibly sound like a small plane idling. :) I bought the Lenovo M910 Tower 1 month ago for home as well as crunching and it's fantastic all around for everything I do and crunching at 100% 24x7. The M710 Tiny has the same i7 as my Tower for a much cheaper price because all I want is it (actually a few of them) to sit and crunch. Let me know your thoughts. Hi, This seems like a smart move. I wish I could finance Lenovo here. I do a bit of gaming on the only computer I have with a graphics card (gtx 670M). I'd like at least a 1060 so I can play most games without fiddling with graphics settings. I'm also visually impaired so I won't be needing something for battlefield or the like. I play mostly fighting games. Also keep in mind I'm in Canada. Right now I can get this xps 8930 with 12 months financing 0% interest. I don't need a super high end GPU. I'm thinking the 8700 in the xps will be plenty - again, being blind, I don't care about overclocking. This also adds heat and even more complexity. We're already hitting 4.3 GHZ with all cores in use - what real world case do we need to go much further, seriously? Hitting 5 ghz is cool for the numbers and all I guess. It's also, in theory, 4 more days that I get per every real world day for all out crunching over this AMD, which is nice. And probably tripple if not more the points. Dell used to offer a small form factor Inspiron with a core i7. Unless I'm missing something, it's gone and all they have now are Celleron. I see an inspiron gaming with Ryzen, but I also get a tower that weighs 30+ pounds and is larger than the xps. Being blind, I have a hard time with looking at desktops and things over the internet. I can't get a good idea of how things look unless described to me or read in an interview. Anyway just a few things to keep in mind about me.
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ericinboston
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jan 12, 2010 Post Count: 265 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi, This seems like a smart move. I wish I could finance Lenovo here. I do a bit of gaming on the only computer I have with a graphics card (gtx 670M). I'd like at least a 1060 so I can play most games without fiddling with graphics settings. I'm also visually impaired so I won't be needing something for battlefield or the like. I play mostly fighting games. Also keep in mind I'm in Canada. Right now I can get this xps 8930 with 12 months financing 0% interest. I don't need a super high end GPU. I'm thinking the 8700 in the xps will be plenty - again, being blind, I don't care about overclocking. This also adds heat and even more complexity. We're already hitting 4.3 GHZ with all cores in use - what real world case do we need to go much further, seriously? Hitting 5 ghz is cool for the numbers and all I guess. It's also, in theory, 4 more days that I get per every real world day for all out crunching over this AMD, which is nice. And probably tripple if not more the points. Dell used to offer a small form factor Inspiron with a core i7. Unless I'm missing something, it's gone and all they have now are Celleron. I see an inspiron gaming with Ryzen, but I also get a tower that weighs 30+ pounds and is larger than the xps. Hi. No disrespect but it feels like you replied to a completely different question/thread. I asked you about how much you wanted to spend, wattage, etc. and I got a reply about you living in Canada, financing, and being visually impaired. What do any of those responses have to do with your original questions and/or my replies? I'll ask again: What is your budget? Have you considered the Lenovo Tiny that is 1/2 the price of the Dell XPS as well as easily 1/4 the size and probably uses 1/3 the power? Your XPS starts at $999 while the Tiny 710 tops out at $630. If the Tiny 710 is not good enough for you (why?) then try the 910 Tiny...or the 910 Mid Tower...or 910 full Tower....or 710 mid/full Towers. Even financing Dell for 0% for 12 months you still have to pay them via check or credit card unless you get their actual Dell Credit Card which is not worth the time or credit pings to open a card for a 1-time purchase. Most people with existing credit cards in the USA are 8-17% for people with good credit. Most people in the USA can also open a new credit card with 18 month 0% that would easily afford a $500+ purchase. Please stick the the sticker price and computer itself...do you like the Tiny? If not, what needs to be improved about it to make it work for you? For WCG reasons, all you should be concerned about is how much it costs to get X Results/Points per Day. GHz and overclocking are moot points. Think about the end goal. You can also choose other Tiny editions at Lenovo or get the Mid Towers or regular Towers. I would suggest the 710 or 910 model desktops. Eons ago I liked Dell. Nowadays there are never any true sales/deals at Dell, their stuff is years old (I watched the XPS models for years with very minimal changes), and their systems are blah and desktops seem to break right at the 3 year mark (your mileage may vary). Lenovo has a much better build in my experience. If you go to mom and pop shops, you're going to be 1.5x to 2x the price of Dell or Lenovo. ![]() |
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