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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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IS Zika higher priority than all the other projects? Seems like every time I check, all other projects are waiting in que while Zika files are being processed.. Scheduling priorities by the techs is as much an art as a skill. They try to determine a balance of all the projects probably based on the number of WU available and how much time they think that project should get in the overall mix. They need to balance those crunchers who are exclusively doing one project along with those who opt into everything. It should not be surprising if they tweak the settings on a fairly regular basis. Cheers Well, I don't think so...'cause: 1. BOINC does it automatically when you have several projects running (not only WCG)...you just input the weight of the project! 2. WCG is so powerful, that they weight project according to bandwidth to university that's doing the processing 3. also, according to servers that university has...'cause you can't just overfill the server & hope it will run OK with sending you NEW data! 4. also, some databases has to be imputed into servers...so that was the reason why we had a Zika almost on pause... 5. some projects do crunching as a build up from previous units (FAHB), so unless previous units have been finished...you can't get more data for new units! 6. servers DO have a limited amount of data storage...so that's another thing to take into account. when you put in a weight of the project into account! & there're probably some other things you have to take into account...but those people which switch the projects on WCG...no problem, 'cause there're plenty of them using MOST of the projects...so they crunch out the data! also, some users have enabled option to send in data if you don't have projects selected...like I don't do CEP2 after some information revealed here on forum...but from time to time, if there's not enough of OZ, UGM or MCM data - a few of CEP2 slips in to be crunched!  |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Seems like every time I check, all other projects are waiting in que while Zika files are being processed Not sure if I understand your question, but I'll try to answer what I understood...Generally speaking, the order of the processing of the WUs in the BOINC Manager is FIFO. Some projects have different due dates for "normal" WUs (for example OET is 10 days vs 4 days for FAH2). This generally works OK if your queue is small (1-2 days). If your queue is bigger, then the BOINC Manager starts crunching those WUs that it considers it might not be finished by the due date. In some extreme cases, the manager goes bonkers and starts to jump around like a headless chicken, crunching WUs willy nilly (curiously, somehow, it always works out in the end  ). Now, above I mentioned "normal" WUs... the "abnormal" ones are the resends, which have a due date that is half of the other "normal" WUs. If you get a slew of these resends, that might change the order of the crunching.Hope this helped... CJSL Crunching like the Mad Hatter... |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
His observation was "Seems like every time I check, all other projects are waiting in que [sic] while Zika files are being processed..." which has absolutely nothing to do with the order and frequency the tasks are issued by the server [Sgt.Joe elaborates a bit on that]. This is about the client, BOINC work scheduling decisions, for which the key handle words were provided. As is observed in the linked thread, either one formulates the question precisely and then do some reading [clearly no effort was taken, or was willing to be taken, so the response to my first post indicated] The search box right top would have popped up previous posts and leads on the issue, where again, the formulation of the observation to the question hints on there being problems with several client settings [MinB/MaxAB]. For those willing to read start at https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ClientSched Is your troll suit on? If you don't like the question ignore it... A lot more questions would be asked by people if trolls didn't stalk the forums... [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jun 26, 2016 6:15:04 PM] |
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SekeRob
Master Cruncher Joined: Jan 7, 2013 Post Count: 2741 Status: Offline |
As the saying goes 'if the shoe fits, put it on' -don't- try to put it on the feet of others... it backfires and gives you warts ;>)
cjslman, the 'bonkers' mode is called EDF (Earliest Deadline First), most often caused by the member with overzealous buffer settings, irregular schedules and constant toying with settings, which prevents BOINC from learning. There's nothing much bonkers about it since the gyrations having been limited to a maximum equal to the cores in a system. |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I like "bonkers" better... EDF sounds like the initials of either a revolutionary army or something that is contagious
----------------------------------------. And yes, I agree that when the priority goes "bonkers" it's because of the reasons you mentioned (but I did mention that it generally works itself out to a good ending ).CJSL World Community Grid: the final frontier. These are the adventures of the grid WCG. Its never-ending mission: to explore strange new methods, to seek out new cures and new solutions, to boldly crunch where no man has crunched before. |
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Eric_Kaiser
Veteran Cruncher Germany (Hessen) Joined: May 7, 2013 Post Count: 1047 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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KLiK,
----------------------------------------I recommend to read the forum rules again, please, and remember ErikaT words in the closed thread. You know which one...  [Edit 1 times, last edit by Eric_Kaiser at Jul 13, 2016 7:11:34 PM] |
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KerSamson
Master Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Post Count: 1684 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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It is a usual recommendation to mention to search and to read existing material before posting.
----------------------------------------SekeRob is direct ... and efficient. His support and advices are really valuable based on a wide and deep knowledge. I don't see any reason to make observation about his English. Many of us are not English native speakers and some of us try to help even if our language is not the most perfect one. Where I struggle from time to time is when people ask without searching and reading existing material or when people criticize situation or "order" changes or support without any consideration on the overall situation and constraints. In such cases, I can understand that some faithful supporters and helpers provide direct answers. Happy crunching, Yves |
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ErikaT
Former World Community Grid Admin USA Joined: Apr 27, 2009 Post Count: 912 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Friends,
I have had to remove a few posts from this thread due to violation of forum rules. Besides being kind to one another , another favor I ask is please do not quote posts that are in violation of forum rules because that then makes your post in violation as well, and subject to removal.I appreciate the support, ErikaT |
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Jim1348
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 13, 2009 Post Count: 1066 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I run only Zika and Ebola on a Linux machine. The run times seem to average about the same, but I have been getting slightly more Ebola for the last few days, at least.
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uplinger
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: May 23, 2005 Post Count: 3952 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The weight for Ebola is about twice what is set for ZIKA. These priorities are set based on various conditions. Here are a few:
1. Do we have enough work 2. Can we upload results quick enough 3. Do we have enough storage All of those are just high level reasons, but I hope you kind of get the idea that setting it to full speed is not always the best option for a project. Also, as Erika mentioned, please keep it positive in the forums :) Thanks, -Uplinger |
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