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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Is there any advantage to crunching with a server VS a desktop system???
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7848 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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Servers are built to run 24/7. They usually have redundant power supplies and more robust cooling. (I run my servers only using one of the available power supplies.) That being said, they are probably not as efficient, on average, as a desktop ( this may vary quite a bit depending on configuration.) I have run both servers and desktops 24/7 and experienced little to no problems with either.
----------------------------------------Edit: Also, server boards will come in multiple cpu configurations - 2, 4, etc. I don't think desktop boards do the multiple cpu's. Edit 2: Thanks, Old Chap. I should have mentioned the fans in a server can be quite loud, especially at startup or in a warm environment. They are meant to move a lot of air. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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OldChap
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Jun 5, 2009 Post Count: 978 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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IN THEORY: a dual processor server is running 2 cpu's but just 1 infrastructure element (the motherboard and all the bells and whistles on it) and therefore uses less power. Servers built with reliability in mind. ECC Reg RAM for example.
----------------------------------------IN PRACTICE: Enthusiast boards have more control over voltage and other settings which can offset any server advantage and if you keep things cool is pretty good on longevity. If you choose can be very quiet compared to most servers. ![]() |
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Workstations work great. I built a dual xeon westmere system. dual hax chips. Easier to maintain. Been running over 3 years straight. Zero issues. Can't really OC them though. You need to decide what will benefit you more and how much money you want to spend. My i7 is dual purpose. Crunch and gaming.
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Former Member
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Ok now I see why people buy servers :o)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ProLiant-DL380-G7-...%3D24%26sd%3D111940549534 |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Ok now I see why people buy servers :o) http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ProLiant-DL380-G7-...%3D24%26sd%3D111940549534 It would be great if it wasn't that heavy! Just make sure that postage isn't equal to cost of server...it's $400 shipping cost from US to EU! ![]() |
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KerSamson
Master Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jan 29, 2007 Post Count: 1684 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Depending of the server hardware, you should verify if the operating system you plan to install is well supported.
----------------------------------------Some times, default (generic) drivers (including chipset drivers) could have a negative impact on performance. If you plan to operate the server with one of the GNU/Linux distribution, it is recommended to check for hardware support. Several years ago, I did experience a lot of troubles with Ubuntu 10.04 x64 on an Intel server mainboard (dual Xeon E5345). Cheers, Yves |
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Aperture_Science_Innovators
Advanced Cruncher United States Joined: Jul 6, 2009 Post Count: 139 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Ok now I see why people buy servers :o) http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ProLiant-DL380-G7-...%3D24%26sd%3D111940549534 I'm running four of these, each with dual X5690s, and a DL360 G7 with dual X5660s. They are quite loud (although still not as bad as the 1U quad-socket systems) and draw a bunch of power, but they're extremely reliable and stack up quite nicely. The price is fantastic for the computing power. ![]() |
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OldChap
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Jun 5, 2009 Post Count: 978 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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If you like playing around with hardware it is possible to run some HP Blades without an enclosure and those can be very cheap. Even a fully populated enclosure is only an arm and half a leg if you are looking at G6 or G7 hardware. Be prepared for big electricity bills though and probably the need for a dedicated circuit to run it
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Disregarding electricity, its by far the cheapest way to get maximum compute power and time per dollar. Servers tend to have many cores for multiple concurrent threads, not great for gaming, perfect for boinc projects.
That being said I haven't bought a used server yet because I have nowhere to keep it, my room is already borderline too hot during the summer, and thats turning my PC off at night. |
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