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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
What is the best cruncher you could build for $500?
Exclude taxes, shipping and operating system. Exclude Keyboard, monitor, mouse and external cabling. Include the case and everything in it. Have fun... |
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OldChap
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Jun 5, 2009 Post Count: 978 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Please define best
----------------------------------------Is this supposed to be most productive ? Am I supposed to consider electrical use ?? ![]() |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Crunches the most results per day, electrical use doesn't matter.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
5 Odroid xu4's @$79 each running Android. 8 cores each means 40 total cores. Case not needed unless you like pretty things. 16GB micro SD class 10 cards to run them are cheap. Electrical would be next to nothing too
If you're talking PCs, you can get used blade servers on ebay running dual hex core xeons for sub $500 price. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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5 Odroid xu4's @$79 each running Android. 8 cores each means 40 total cores. Case not needed unless you like pretty things. 16GB micro SD class 10 cards to run them are cheap. Electrical would be next to nothing too If you're talking PCs, you can get used blade servers on ebay running dual hex core xeons for sub $500 price. +1 but some Xeons with multiple cores run pretty cheap also...like E5-2670V2 is around $220-250, which has a 10c/20ht! just need also an mbo for it & RAM... ![]() |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I would buy 13 RCA 7" quad core tablets at wally world for $38 each, $494 total.
----------------------------------------13 X 4 = 52 cores @ 1.2 ghz The chargers max at 5vdc @ 1 amp ( they never use any where near this much ) for 5 watts apiece or 65 watts per hour. 52/65 watts = .8 watts per core maximum 65 watts X 24 hours X 30 days per month = 46.8 Kwh 46.8 Kwh X $.20 per Kwh = $9.36 a month maximum possible electric cost. Once originally charged, they only need a small trickle to maintain the charge so the usage and electrical costs are much lower than above. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jun 1, 2016 4:54:35 PM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Guess I should have stipulated that it could crunch ANY WCG project, ruling out the droids...
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OldChap
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Jun 5, 2009 Post Count: 978 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Crunches the most results per day, electrical use doesn't matter. With just this in mind and presuming that secondhand equipment is allowed I find that the argument is going to be between more older slower cores or fewer newer cores that tend to run faster. To put things in perspective and miss your $500 target for a moment..... Back awhile I looked at my overclocked 2600K and what it was achieving. At a certain overclock I could achieve around 9000 boinc points per day on one project but doing so was using 240w from the socket. The chance arose for me to get a dual socket xeon e5 setup that ran at half the speed and with 4 times as many threads and as you might expect it achieved twice as many points whilst still using 240w on the same project. If you can stop laughing for a moment when I say that points are related to the amount of work done then it seems to me you should just look for which machines produce the most points and work your way down the list until you find one that you can build/buy for $500 OR In view of your comment "electrical use doesn't matter" maybe consider even older cheaper tech but more of it. You can probably buy 2 or 3 xeon x5550/x5570 dualies for the money (More if you use blades) which will do more work but each one will likely use 250w plus copy these results into your own spreadsheet and sort on ppd to get you started: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ll78D...9Xazh6Bvo2xlII/edit#gid=0 As a general rule work done is proportional to watts used. Just remember that each generation of xeon cpus is more efficient the newer it is and that is probably why companies upgrade their servers. ![]() |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Would the priorities in a system be:
1. Number of cores/threads 2. Processor speed 3. Ram Let’s say you are crunching The Clean Energy Project ( which requires 1 GB of ram ). Running Windows 7 requiring 2 GB RAM (64-bit) Would this mean on a quad core you should at least have 1+1+1+2=5Gb ram to max out performance? {1GB per instance of TCEP plus 2gb for the operating system.} Would more ram that this, say 8GB be a waste? I’m just trying to learn here... |
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OldChap
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Jun 5, 2009 Post Count: 978 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Priorities seem right to me but although CEP states 1GB per thread is required you can read that as including the OS for the most part (8t plus)
----------------------------------------When building crunchers it is preferred to use Linux anyway (free and uses less resources) so should be good with 4t and cep. Again just for crunching it is not difficult to set up Linux ![]() |
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