Index  | Recent Threads  | Unanswered Threads  | Who's Active  | Guidelines  | Search
 

Quick Go »
No member browsing this thread
Thread Status: Active
Total posts in this thread: 7
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread
Author
Previous Thread This topic has been viewed 1372 times and has 6 replies Next Thread
MatMan0110
Cruncher
Joined: Apr 10, 2007
Post Count: 4
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Error

I have been using trial and error for the last month and finally figured out that FAH2 needs to run continuously, (no pauses due to daily schedule settings). This is unfortunate as electricity costs in the province of Ontario continue to rise. I tried running BOINC between 19:00 Hrs and 07:00 Hrs, and this solves the cost penalty of using electricity outside these time parameters, but certain project tasks fail consistently with "Error". From what I've been able to glean from other users, the issue might come from the trickle upload issues.

At this point my only option is to abandon certain projects that don't error out with pausing issues. I really want to contribute to all the projects that deal with human misery, but my hands are tied.

Can the programmers of FAH2 please fix this. crying

Yes I have a constant connect to the internet via cable. 60 MiB down, 10 Mib up.

Yes I have tried this on 4 different Windows 10 x64 systems (2 desktops and 2 notebooks).
[May 2, 2016 2:11:34 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher
USA
Joined: Jul 4, 2006
Post Count: 7574
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: Error

Please post a copy of the stderr file from one of the units which errors.
Cheers
----------------------------------------
Sgt. Joe
*Minnesota Crunchers*
[May 2, 2016 10:35:28 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
MatMan0110
Cruncher
Joined: Apr 10, 2007
Post Count: 4
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: Error

Hi,
I don't have any logs to post right now, as when I changed to running 24/7 errors stopped occurring, so to post an stderr file I'll first have to set up everything to recreate the situation. Give me a couple of days.

Thanks,
Matman smile
[May 4, 2016 12:04:50 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
MatMan0110
Cruncher
Joined: Apr 10, 2007
Post Count: 4
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: Error

Go figure. I set it up to fail and it works flawlessly. Sorry, my bad. How to I remove a thread?
[May 6, 2016 12:17:27 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Falconet
Master Cruncher
Portugal
Joined: Mar 9, 2009
Post Count: 3294
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: Error

Don't worry about it ;)
----------------------------------------


AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W
AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz
[May 6, 2016 12:45:30 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
MatMan0110
Cruncher
Joined: Apr 10, 2007
Post Count: 4
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: Error

As you can tell I'm an AMD fanboy. I prefer real cores per task as apposed to virtual core. My AMD systems consume vast amounts of energy. Phenom 9850 @2.5 125 Watts, Phenom II 1090T @3.2 125 Watts, Vishera 9950 @4.7 220 Watts and Turion II Ultra M600 @2.4 35 Watts, and 3 x android systems Allwinner A80 @2.5 2.3 Watts, Tegra X1 @1.9 ~10 Watts, and Snapdragon 805 @2.7 4.5 Watts. So running between 19:00 and 07:00 hrs becomes kind of important energy/cost wise.
[May 6, 2016 11:11:23 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Former Member
Cruncher
Joined: May 22, 2018
Post Count: 0
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: Error

Intel is not the only one that uses virtual cores; so does Oracle. Oracle pushes the envelope even further and is doing 8 to 16 threads per physical core. When a CPU is at 100% utilization, it really isn’t. It spends a lot of time waiting for data to process; this is where threading comes in. So while physical cores have their advantages, so do virtual cores. You get more with less; work smarter, not harder.

Take one of my latest machines. If I compare it to your Phenom 9850; yours has a benchmark of 2,914 with a single thread rating of 848. My latest machine is 11,909 with a single thread rating of 1505. It is 16 threads and 8 cores with a TDP of 45 watts; far lower than your 125 watt. So it takes about 1/3 less power and over 4 times the processing power. Threads help increase the performance per watt.

For comparison sakes; the Phenom II 1090T has a benchmark of 5682 and a single thread performance 1223.
If we take your 8 core processor with 8 threads. It has a benchmark of 10262 with a single thread rating of 1721. So on a single thread you have a slight advantage but overall I have the advantage thanks to the additional threads keeping the cores busy. My processor is newer than yours though. Yours is from Q2 2013 compared to Q1 2016. The predecessor of mine is from Q2 2015 and it has similar performance and the same power envelope. The benchmark of it is 10883 with a single thread performance of 1399. It runs at 2.0GHz whereas the new model (what I have) runs at 2.1GHz. The processor I’m talking about is the Xeon D-1540 and D-1541. For comparison sake, I could run 4 to 5 D-1541 systems in the power envelope of your biggest rig.

If I ran your biggest rig 24x7 it would cost about $1 per day compared to about $0.18 per day for a D-1541. In the course of a year that would be $345 to $65. That wouldn’t include the cooling costs either; all that heat is great in the winter but would be a killer in the summer.
[May 10, 2016 3:34:58 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread