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Thread: All Germanium-containing workunits failing |
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Former Member
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I'm not sure why you have a problem with heavy metals for use in solar cells - the aim of the project isn't to create a solar cell which is bio-degradable or non-toxic.
If you look at the project pages, it says that they're testing carbon based compounds. The compounds given at the top of the thread contain carbon so come under the project scope. The aim is to "provide inexpensive solar cells" and to "increase the efficiencies and lifetimes of these photovoltaics". The clean part of the project title is compared to fossil fuels. |
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SekeRob
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There seem to be paint-solutions already, but their efficiency requires large surfaces. [Not original], but it tickles my fancy to one day have a big roll of organic-based solar sheet, 10 meters wide, 30 meters long, on a motorized spindle. When the daylight has enough 'force', make it roll out on the lawn along rails, amass the photaic energy into Lithium-Polymer batteries, or anything better, and when needed, use it up. Only when batteries are chock-full, feed excess back to the grid. [It seems in the US various lobbyist got politicians to invent taxes to make it expensive again].
Would it bother me if a pinch of this or that gets added to optimize output. NO. After use, recycle... that's jobs too. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm not sure why you have a problem with heavy metals for use in solar cells - the aim of the project isn't to create a solar cell which is bio-degradable or non-toxic. If you look at the project pages, it says that they're testing carbon based compounds. The compounds given at the top of the thread contain carbon so come under the project scope. The aim is to "provide inexpensive solar cells" and to "increase the efficiencies and lifetimes of these photovoltaics". The clean part of the project title is compared to fossil fuels. nope, check again...their research is trying out to make an "organic solar cell" from CH mostly...making current solar cell, which are bio-hazard as a waste into a bio-friendly versions!  |
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littlepeaks
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Apr 28, 2007 Post Count: 748 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Getting back to the original topic of this thread.
I had two WUs recently fail, one with Germanium, and one with Selenium: E236352_ 423_ S.232.C22H13N3S2Se1.YRQUTBCVXPHVNF-UHFFFAOYSA-N.16_ s1_ 14_ 3-- Both failed with "(unknown error) - exit code 195 (0xc3)" by all participants, and the server stopped sending out more copies of the WU. So there is definitely a problem with these. |
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SekeRob
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The question -On Topic- is, has anyone seen any GE containing task succeed, and if not the question to the techs is "why are these still being circulated?"
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svincent
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I agree: these Ge-containing workunits should be removed. But at least they fail immediately, which minimizes the aggravation factor.
The same can't be said for several selenium-containing workunits I've had recently, which crash after 10-12 hours. Samples: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1647360556 https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1644750050 |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2346 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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The same can't be said for several selenium-containing workunits I've had recently, which crash after 10-12 hours. Samples: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1647360556 https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1644750050 If it was your intention that one could take a look through those links, svincent, then the message is that it isn't working like that, I'm afraid: "I don't see nothing." Please post the contents if you care... |
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SekeRob
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or his account password ;P
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Yarensc
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The question -On Topic- is, has anyone seen any GE containing task succeed, and if not the question to the techs is "why are these still being circulated?" None here, 3 pages of CEP task history show 3 Ge work units, all errored out |
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svincent
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The same can't be said for several selenium-containing workunits I've had recently, which crash after 10-12 hours. Samples: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1647360556 https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/devi....do?workunitId=1644750050 If it was your intention that one could take a look through those links, svincent, then the message is that it isn't working like that, I'm afraid: "I don't see nothing." Please post the contents if you care... Posting the links was really for the benefit of the devs. |
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