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Former Member
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What about fast food? Would manufacturers claim that as healthy and nutritious?
Ever heard of the film Super Size Me? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me What does all this food processing actually do to ones metabolism? While it is still beef, vegetables, etc. there is obviously something very different in how the body deals with it. If I eat highly processed fast food for dinner every day, I will gain weight. If I go to a burger place where the fries are freshly cut, the burgers are not frozen and have a lot less preservatives in them (and thus a lot less processing), I can actually lose/maintain weight. At the end of the day, there were all beef patties, the fries were still from a potato and the bun was still bread but the outcome is greatly different. http://content.healthaffairs.org/content/22/6/207.full If the food is so safe, why do you need to be shielded from product liability? http://www.bu.edu/washington/2005/10/19/food-...mits-fast-food-liability/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_in_Food_Consumption_Act So while it didn't pass, you know who was behind it. In 2003, Keller was sponsor of H.R. 339, the Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act. At the same time, Keller had taken the maximum level of PAC donations up to $300,000 for his personal campaign funding from restaurants including McDonalds, Wendys and Burger King. The bill would have shielded manufacturers, distributors, and sellers of food and beverages from lawsuits blaming them for "weight gain, obesity, or a health condition related to weight gain or obesity." Keller, who said he was about 20 pounds over his ideal weight, said that he thought consumers should stop blaming "fast food" sellers and "junk food" manufacturers for their weight issues. One really needs to look at the irony of it though. This was back in 2005, so a decade ago. Ric Keller is currently 51, so he was 41 back then. http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2005-10-2...t-arrhythmia-cheeseburger So he is overweight and has a heart condition....at the age of 41. I don't see other restaurants needing to be shielded. I don't see grocery stores needing to be shielded either. Hospital food is not all that good, why not outsource the food to fast food places? How about getting rid of the cafeteria in schools? I'm sure the fast food industry would be more than happy to take it over. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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you reminded me about something...as we do have problem in Croatia also, 'cause of all meat production we are used on continental area...& as far as I know, we're the only nation that produces "blood sausages", which might come in handy if we ever ask Klingons for a dinner!
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Former Member
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in Europe it's still a slightly different thing...we got more taxes, but some things are funded from state...& we mostly didn't accept GMO right away... but the LOBBY is good & strong...so even bad stuff get through, as it's good & strong!  All politicians can be bought. We the people don't have a lobby and thus losing our voice. I believe you posted about that guy being arrested and he was the one that ran a company that bought a drug and then increased the price by over 5000%. The FDA could easily end companies doing things like that but they won't because of MONEY. If someone wants to produce a generic drug, it costs a lot of money to go through the FDA process. The FDA could easily look at their testing procedure/requirements and then that of other countries. If other countries have the same policies or even more stringent ones, they could easily accept the generic drug that was certified by another government, they won't because they will lose money. Is the FDA here to protect the people or to make money? Take immiticide which is to treat animals with heartworms. Immiticide from Europe is not approved by FDA, so it cannot be used as a source. The FDA did allow some to be imported into the US in limited quantities for a short time period. So, rather than the FDA doing anything, they are letting animals with heartworms suffer. Another instance would be staph infections and more importantly the use of antibiotics is causing strains that are very resilient to antibiotics. England has a great medication that has been shown is quite effective to treat staph infections; it is called Allimed. I used it on a dog that had immune system issues. It is cheap in England and expensive here and the FDA won't certify it unless the company pays to get it FDA certified. This is when you know the government is not for you when they do very little to nothing for you. Wouldn't it be safer to certify things for the people rather than just want money? What will be the real cost when staph infections get to the point that they cannot be cured? What will the FDA do then? Probably nothing. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Dec 29, 2015 12:48:37 AM] |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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We also have some issues here...using too much of anti-depression pills...using too much of the antibiotics...etc.
----------------------------------------But it helps that whole of EU is a common market...so some certified medications can be legally imported with another member papers! & also, government is here to run state...not to help people! until, people start the revolution against government... |
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SekeRob
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according to a new study http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151216144831.htm? The title of this thread is incomplete so I've redacted, then read long article and shiffer http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/magazine/th...-news&WT.nav=top-news and remember the acronym PFOA... It's pretty much everywhere now. |
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Jim1348
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How do you check that the food is as safe as the non-GMO? Feed both to rats and see what happens? Not exactly a real study that shows how it is metabolized by the human body. Scientists have conclusively shown that red meat and fat are bad for you. It would probably do as much good to ban all natural food and allow only GMOs. |
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enels
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Lean red meat is good for you. Especially women who need Iron.
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Jim1348
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Lean red meat is good for you. Especially women who need Iron. Sure. I was just trying to point out that studies can be done on every food and point to some ill effect. Making a broad statement that GMO food is bad for you makes about as much sense as saying that natural food is bad for you. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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according to a new study http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151216144831.htm? The title of this thread is incomplete so I've redacted, then read long article and shiffer http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/10/magazine/th...-news&WT.nav=top-news and remember the acronym PFOA... It's pretty much everywhere now. the story made me goosebumps all over my body...I'd really like to see a movie about this courageous man in future! How do you check that the food is as safe as the non-GMO? Feed both to rats and see what happens? Not exactly a real study that shows how it is metabolized by the human body. Scientists have conclusively shown that red meat and fat are bad for you. It would probably do as much good to ban all natural food and allow only GMOs. that raised so much concern in EU, especially in Croatia - as we do eat a lot of smoked sausages! but, meat production is just so "ineffective"...you have to have more than 70l of water & about 25kg of herb food to make 1kg of meat! we, as a whole human kind, can't keep these low meat prices we have now...it's just absurd! ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by KLiK at Jan 9, 2016 11:51:42 AM] |
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Jim1348
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we, as a whole human kind, can't keep these low meat prices we have now...it's just absurd! Meat prices are quite low in the U.S. It is almost cheaper to buy meat than vegetables. That makes some sense when you consider that the grain prices that feed the cattle, pigs and chickens are low, and meat is just another way of transporting grain to market. But it can't last forever. They need to develop better soy-burgers. |
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