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UGM - Linux Ubuntu & Win10 comparison

Now that at my home there are two almost identical intel boards (DG33FB & DP35DP) with two identical X3360 processors...a comparison of estimated time of WU is 20-30% slower on LINUX...why is that?

to give numbers:
- estimated run time on Ubuntu is 3h 45min +/- 2min
- estimated run time on Win10 is 2h 40min /- 2min

why?!
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Re: UGM - Linux Ubuntu & Win10 comparison

What do the BOINC benchmarks show?
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Re: UGM - Linux Ubuntu & Win10 comparison

You should run a few WU's first and then compare the results. Estimated is just that, estimated.
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Re: UGM - Linux Ubuntu & Win10 comparison

Are you running 64-bit Linux, and if so is the UGM app 64-bit? i'm guessing that the Windows app is 32-bit only (I have no Windows machines on which to check!)

I have only done comparative testing on FAH2 jobs, but the average times for 32-bit FAH2 jobs on a 32-bit Linux virtual machine on a 64-bit Linux host are about 25% less than 64-bit FAH2 jobs run on the host itself. That makes the 64-bit apps about 30% slower. This observation is based on over 150 tasks of each type.

It wouldn't surprise me if the same is true of quite a lot of applications - it will depend on compilation options (choice of arithmetic precision, &c), optimizations and all sorts of other things - 32-bit and 64-bit apps are rarely identical in performance.

For what it's worth, the only platform I have that tends to get UGM jobs has an i3-2100 clocked at 3.1GHz, and it typically takes 3.5 to 4 hours to run a single 64-bit Linux UGM task.
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Re: UGM - Linux Ubuntu & Win10 comparison

What do the BOINC benchmarks show?

so, here are the results for the Linux Ubuntu:

Uto 15 Pro 2015 09:42:52 | | Running CPU benchmarks
Uto 15 Pro 2015 09:42:53 | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
Uto 15 Pro 2015 09:43:24 | | Benchmark results:
Uto 15 Pro 2015 09:43:24 | | Number of CPUs: 4
Uto 15 Pro 2015 09:43:24 | | 2721 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
Uto 15 Pro 2015 09:43:24 | | 11966 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
Uto 15 Pro 2015 09:43:25 | | Resuming computation


& this is from Win10:

12/15/2015 9:48:19 AM | | Running CPU benchmarks
12/15/2015 9:48:20 AM | | Suspending computation - CPU benchmarks in progress
12/15/2015 9:48:51 AM | | Benchmark results:
12/15/2015 9:48:51 AM | | Number of CPUs: 4
12/15/2015 9:48:51 AM | | 2970 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
12/15/2015 9:48:51 AM | | 5951 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
12/15/2015 9:48:52 AM | | Resuming computation


Are you running 64-bit Linux, and if so is the UGM app 64-bit? i'm guessing that the Windows app is 32-bit only (I have no Windows machines on which to check!)

I have only done comparative testing on FAH2 jobs, but the average times for 32-bit FAH2 jobs on a 32-bit Linux virtual machine on a 64-bit Linux host are about 25% less than 64-bit FAH2 jobs run on the host itself. That makes the 64-bit apps about 30% slower. This observation is based on over 150 tasks of each type.

It wouldn't surprise me if the same is true of quite a lot of applications - it will depend on compilation options (choice of arithmetic precision, &c), optimizations and all sorts of other things - 32-bit and 64-bit apps are rarely identical in performance.

For what it's worth, the only platform I have that tends to get UGM jobs has an i3-2100 clocked at 3.1GHz, and it typically takes 3.5 to 4 hours to run a single 64-bit Linux UGM task.

both OS are x64...

but for science...have to let you know (when UGM arrives to crunch)! wink

for now, only can tell that all UGM WUs are ver7.28! cool
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Re: UGM - Linux Ubuntu & Win10 comparison

I run only Win7 64-bit machines, and on an i5-3550 (3.3 GHz), I have been getting slightly under 2 hours per UGM WU (7.28). Note that that is on a full Ivy Bridge core however, so a virtual core would probably run about 3.5 hours or a little less as a guess.

I will be putting together a Skylake machine later, with Linux Mint 18, so will be interested in seeing what works best on what OS.

EDIT:To check the effect of hyperthreading, I ran UGM 7.28 on all 8 cores of an i7-4771 (3.7 GHz). They came in at exactly 3 hours, so this project does well on virtual cores. I think I will leave it on my Win7 64-bit machines.
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