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Alejandro Guariguata
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confused Using dedicated servers for WCG

Reading the BOINC subreddit gave me an idea, is it possible to rent a dedicated server for a month and use the machine solely for WCG, 100% CPU 24/7?
Does anyone have any experience with this type of situation? Has this been done before?
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

Sure. I've got 4 12-core dedicated servers up and running.
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Alejandro Guariguata
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

That's amazing news for me, could you be kind enough to give me a few pointers? I am experienced with command line and Linux which will help, i have never rented a server though, below are some things I'm unsure about

What provider would you recommend?
How long can you rent it for? Can you only rent for a month and then have to do the process again?
Is there any fuss running them 24/7?
Is it worth it?
What are some pitfalls i should avoid?

Thanks in advance
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

Alejandro, a good starting point here in this forum are the following links:

Cloud server comparison
or
Interested in cloud computing

In my personal case I've rented my servers via the server auction page of hetzner (a german provider/hoster as I'm located in Germany too):
Server auction

I can rent them on a monthly basis means I can quit them every month.
I've got my servers running 24/7.
Is it worth it? Hmm, well, that's a question everyone has to answer it for himself. In my case, yes. That's why I have them. On the other hand: I spend for my computers and androids 80€ only for electrical cost. For this amount I could also rent two additional 12-core servers.

Pitfalls: In my personal opinion it helps to get familiar with some basic skills to secure the rented root server. You can a achieve a good security with some basic steps:
- Create a non root user which is allowed to sudo/su
- Switch login method per ssh to keyfile instead of password.
- Change ssh port
- Disallow root to login via ssh.

Hope this helps
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

If you're into this for the long haul, I think you will get more bang for your euro if you buy a used server. Alternatively, you can do what a lot of people on my team do which is build your own.

There are hundreds of used servers on ebay. For example, I searched on ebay for xeon servers and the first entry was this Dell server with 2 quad core chips running at 3ghz for under $300.

I don't know what the cost of a cloud account for that sort of machine would be but unless it's under $25/month, that machine would pay for itself in a year, excluding the cost of electricity.

If you pay a high rate per kwh for electricity though, I can see that it may not be a simple comparison with a cloud account but it's something to consider if you have the space and don't mind the extra heat a rig like that can generate.
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

I'm trying to dip my feet in as well and got several recommendations: link.
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

Not sure if this will help out.. take a look at the following site for prices and locations for dedicated servers.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=36

For different project I have use the following compines.

http://quadix.co/ix/# -- for their 5650
https://www.wholesaleinternet.net/ for their 1230

each one has it pros and cons, make sure you review each company.

Another good source of information

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisp...World-Community-Grid-(WCG
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

Not sure if this will help out.. take a look at the following site for prices and locations for dedicated servers.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=36

For different project I have use the following compines.

http://quadix.co/ix/# -- for their 5650
https://www.wholesaleinternet.net/ for their 1230

each one has it pros and cons, make sure you review each company.

Another good source of information

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisp...World-Community-Grid-(WCG

that 5650 looks like a beast. do you have any PPD stats you're willing to share? and which projects?
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Re: Using dedicated servers for WCG

For the 5650 running - MCM

Date,Run_Time,Points,Resutls_Retruned
07/22/2015 0:023:00:14:54 73,314 86
07/21/2015 0:026:18:55:27 85,159 97
07/20/2015 0:026:04:21:45 82,068 93
07/19/2015 0:024:22:47:27 74,545 84
07/18/2015 0:022:17:04:17 67,528 75
07/17/2015 0:026:13:34:15 76,723 86
07/16/2015 0:027:04:57:34 76,641 82
07/15/2015 0:021:18:38:51 63,258 69
07/14/2015 0:022:22:30:59 66,496 74
07/13/2015 0:019:13:17:27 58,464 69


Don't have any results for the 1230, for MCM
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