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Re: Exploding points claims on OET1

Sometimes the points claims work in your favour biggrin

OET1_ 0000450_ xSDGP-FW_ rig_ 4950_ 0-- Valid 22/02/15 22:13:05 24/02/15 05:11:27 0.06 / 0.06 12.0 / 12.0

200 pts/h is the highest I've ever seen. A short-lived effect caused by the sudden very short run-times for batch 450.
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biggrin Re: Exploding points claims on OET1

I didn't want to declare my strategy a success before it was actually measurable, but it seems to have worked...

Sapphire: 24 Feb: 1,971,297 points 5,857 results 2:000:02:05:48 run time
Emerald: 11 Feb: 1,007,282 points 2,390 results 1:000:22:43:45 run time


I was just 5 days short of Emerald when the project stopped in December so roughly speaking Emerald reflects the first phase of the project and the delta between it and Sapphire reflects the current phase of the project. So I managed to haul my points per hour back from 2 to roughly the same average as in the first phase of the project.

My theory is that those of us who had pounced on the project when it restarted and got reliable status early as a consequence were in effect in a race to the bottom and we ended up staying at the bottom upon achieving reliability. However, new people are joining the project all the time so there is still a small proportion of WUs where I'm wingman. These are the WUs to treasure because the points granted are typically 5x to 10x what my device was claiming.

So, how to get more wingman WUs? Only by processing more WUs!

So I did some selective aborts of unstarted WUs from the same batches as those that were taking >12 hours and delivering ~2 PPH, effectively to clear the logjam and improve my chances of getting some more WUs as wingman. I aborted roughly 2 such WUs per core across my devices, effectively eliminating about 1 day of crunching in total....and then went on vacation.

Having become the aborting wingman on these WUs I got to see the claims and points awarded to those who did crunch them - the lowest grant was around 150 points and the highest just under 600, so between 5 and 20 times more than I was getting for them! As Rob has pointed out, some of these WUs are still coming back as _3 and _4 issues, but I have accepted them and allowed them to crunch and I got about 150 points for them this time round.

So, my conclusion is that the problem was temporary and caused by the enthusiasm of us early adopters who pounced on the project the moment it restarted. It's now mitigated by the gradual drift of new crunchers into the project. If you feel your points claims are too low, then maybe crunch the WUs where you are wingman first, so that the grants have a chance to influence the subsequent claims your devices make on the other WUs where there is no wingman.

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Re: Collapsing points claims on OET1

My last post on the subject.

Obviously the points system is somewhat broken on this project.
Hopefully someone eventually fixes it.

Yet another example.

I think there must be a fairly obvious bug in there to produce these kinds of results on these long units.


Workunit Status

Project Name: Outsmart Ebola Together
Created: 02/11/2015 20:33:36
Name: OET1_0000337_xZAGP-OM_rig_10498
Minimum Quorum: 2
Replication: 2


Result Name App Version Number Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time / Elapsed Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
OET1_ 0000337_ xZAGP-OM_ rig_ 10498_ 2-- 719 Valid 2/22/15 03:44:50 2/23/15 21:48:27 33.37 119.8 / 85.7
OET1_ 0000337_ xZAGP-OM_ rig_ 10498_ 1-- 719 Valid 2/12/15 03:44:55 2/13/15 10:24:30 23.94 51.6 / 85.7
OET1_ 0000337_ xZAGP-OM_ rig_ 10498_ 0-- 719 Error 2/12/15 03:44:37 2/22/15 03:44:54 0.00 50.3 / 0.0
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Re: Collapsing points claims on OET1

I know the points for OET1 vary all over the place, but this is the first time I have seen getting a fraction of a point for a workunit. biggrin
OET1_ 0000443_ xMBGP-FW_ rig_ 20210_ 0-- Computer Valid 3/18/15 12:47:53 3/18/15 18:47:19 0.23 / 0.23 0.8 / 0.8

Sometimes you just have to grin and bear it laughing

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Re: Collapsing points claims on OET1

Hehe, I prefer the CPU time to be really small as well if that happens.
OET1_ 0000434_ xEBGP-FW_ rig_ 58802_ 0-- Valid 17/03/15 21:14:51 18/03/15 08:35:59 0.06 / 0.06 0.8 / 0.8

Sometimes the points per hour can look quite impressive (same machine).
OET1_ 0000442_ xMBGP-FW_ rig_ 29314_ 0-- Valid 18/03/15 11:29:39 18/03/15 18:34:20 0.06 / 0.06 6.0 / 6.0
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Re: Collapsing points claims on OET1

All this was good for a day record result validation of 776K. Yesterday had maxed out on one device for IP tasks [35 per core] and buffer setting at 1 day, valued at 0.8 days TTC per core. This morning the buffer had shrunk to 26 per core, but at a TTC of 1:18 days i.e. not fetched work for a longer time.

The project average was pretty good though, 0.47 hours duration at 28.2 C/H... who the winners and losers were in this euphemistically called Credit_New 'system', you may make out for yourselves... had one where my copy 'claimed' 1.51 credit and the wingman 23.53, for the same work, to the FLOP exact laughing
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Re: Collapsing points claims on OET1

The points will collapse to zero if the hopper isn't loaded soon sad
19/03/2015 09:31:51 | World Community Grid | No tasks are available for Outsmart Ebola Together
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Re: Collapsing points claims on OET1

Yes, me fastest [buffer-less] Linux ran dry on 9:27 UTC with batch 449. Not parsed history, but suspect we've had everything from 298 to 496 except the _OM long running that the techs are holding back.

P.S. Have the added line that "Tasks are committed to other platforms", which will be the repairs [to suppose]. Added MCM to the profile for now.
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Re: Collapsing points claims on OET1

Just downloaded a few - batch 499.
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Ah, that's finally forward in batch count since 496 some month or so ago.
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