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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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For the cost of an RPi2, you could just try buying 4+ refurbished (and in some cases new) cell phones that are dual+ cores each. I'm not sure of the power difference and performance differences here, but I would think you could get more production out of the cell phones for the same up front cost. I bought 8 Optimus Fuels over the holidays for $10 USD each and found a deal on 3 Moto E's for $10 USD each as well. I have missed out on a couple deals for the phones with quad core CPU's in them. But the point is that you can still find much cheaper options that are better supported within the BOINC community.
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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What Cube are you talking about? The interesting thing to me is the explosion of alternatives to Intel/Microsoft over the past few years. Distributed computing is going to have to adjust to this and be a bit more flexible. something like this: http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-cube-google-tv-review crunches FA@h & OET... ;) |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Isn't the ASUS Cube only a dual core, 1GB RAM (~half is usable), Android 3.2, and advertised at ~$140USD though sometimes found for a little cheaper? How does that compare to most modern dual core cell phones? I would think that for that price you could get 10-14 dual core cell phones (refurbished and sometimes new) that would be a way better investment. However, I've never used the Cube and am wondering why it is such a good choice. Can you elaborate?
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Isn't the ASUS Cube only a dual core, 1GB RAM (~half is usable), Android 3.2, and advertised at ~$140USD though sometimes found for a little cheaper? How does that compare to most modern dual core cell phones? I would think that for that price you could get 10-14 dual core cell phones (refurbished and sometimes new) that would be a way better investment. However, I've never used the Cube and am wondering why it is such a good choice. Can you elaborate? Well, it's designed to be turned on for a prolonged duration of time & application heavy...so either you use ASUS or some other brand, try that it's something reliable... Device also lacks the battery...so no problems there with incineration or exploding... Device is also always hooked up on electricity & it is his primary function to be like that! For quad-cores, look at these: https://www.google.at/search?q=android+tv+box...75437374.html%3B500%3B500 this one imitates new iMac: http://www.dhgate.com/product/ippli-mars-i8-a...core-smart/175437374.html |
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Coleslaw
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Mar 29, 2007 Post Count: 1343 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I can honestly say that out of the over dozen phones I have had running exclusively DC projects, not a single one has exploded. Not saying it isn't possible but I think a little common sense can really go a long ways here. Each device is certainly different. I think I replaced the battery in my Moto. Bionic 1 time in like 5 years of non-stop use. None of the others have needed replaced. I think the concerns with battery issues is more over hyped than it deserves.
----------------------------------------ASUS, quality will depend on the person. Their products tend to be love/hate relationships. I for one have not had much luck with any ASUS products. So, I wont find any value to that upsell. Since my phones are dedicated to DC'ing, I would say that in this case (for sake of what we are discussing for buying) the always plugged in is kinda moot. I would say a device with a battery is superior as that means if the power goes off, it still has time to stay on. It is also less likely to have issues during brown-outs. Aaaaaand if the battery really does bother you that much, there are many phones that can run without the battery installed. However, you would have to research those. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by Coleslaw at Mar 24, 2015 7:33:19 PM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You may crunch at a few very select projects with a RP. Today stumbled on an article that the DEC PDP-8, deemed the first 'small' computer just had it's 50th anniversary. A German article yesterday even mentions one is still running to play Sudokus, solving them in 20 seconds, and chess. Searching for more, in English, found though what a RP can do: Emulate a PDP-8 with a screenshot.
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Great thoughts to you guys...nice to hear all that!
----------------------------------------But RP is not developed to be used on WCG users...as for scientist are concerned...and probably never will be! Why? RP is a gadget that only few of us knows how to use...we're talking about 1/10.000 people have ever heard of RP...and of those 700.000 people on planet, MAYBE 7.000 of them knows how to use them! Cellulars are more frequent, about 3.5 billion people have them...of those, about 1 billion are smartphones, which could run some calcs... It's all about numbers! ;) edit: an example is made here - https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,37685 ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by KLiK at Mar 28, 2015 5:13:25 PM] |
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TimAndHedy
Senior Cruncher Joined: Jan 27, 2009 Post Count: 267 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Cellulars are more frequent, about 3.5 billion people have them...of those, about 1 billion are smartphones, which could run some calcs... It's all about numbers! ;) Maybe but Cells are about battery life. What percentage of people are willing to have that run down. PI's and other small linux devices are corded. They are expected to draw power. There are probably close to a Million Pi 2's at this point. I would be interested in the Arm numbers, I guess I should look them up. They should be posted somewhere. |
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Eric_Kaiser
Veteran Cruncher Germany (Hessen) Joined: May 7, 2013 Post Count: 1047 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I've summed up the amount of ARM cores listed at boincstats: 149,107.
----------------------------------------I took a look at wcg and the used operating systems. 57,467 Android devices are listed for WCG. The problem is. I didn't found any information whether the other OS are still active or if it is a historical sum up. In total (Android included) a total of 2,399,748 devices are listet. ![]() |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Cellulars are more frequent, about 3.5 billion people have them...of those, about 1 billion are smartphones, which could run some calcs... It's all about numbers! ;) Maybe but Cells are about battery life. What percentage of people are willing to have that run down. PI's and other small linux devices are corded. They are expected to draw power. There are probably close to a Million Pi 2's at this point. I would be interested in the Arm numbers, I guess I should look them up. They should be posted somewhere. not exactly...'cause smart phones only crunch when they are hooked up on electricity...get your facts straight! |
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