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yoro42
Ace Cruncher United States Joined: Feb 19, 2011 Post Count: 8979 Status: Recently Active Project Badges: 
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Yoro42 - They are an intriguing proposition, especially for my laptop if I ever need to replace the HD on that. For my desktop, I have 4Tb of conventional drive, so just a SSD will do. vcd683s, That's exactly how I got there. My laptop had a totally unrecoverable crash of its 500G HDD, which brought me to the SSHD hybrid drive.  |
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Paul Schlaffer
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My question was basically, is it worth going for a last generation SSD to save myself some $$$$? Or must I go for the current generation? Since you stated that you are not running the BOINC data directory on the drive, you will not see a significant difference between generations. However make sure you buy a drive with a sata III interface. In the consumer space I recommend either an Intel or Crucial brand for reliability. That's exactly how I got there. My laptop had a totally unrecoverable crash of its 500G HDD, which brought me to the SSHD hybrid drive. I also have a Seagate hybrid SSHD in one of the laptops. After you go through a few boot cycles the boot times on this is very close to a full SSD. This a great compromise between capacity and performance. They also make a full size version for desktops with only 1 drive. but, as u ask about it...I noticed some guys that use SSD say that they got problems with data...after some years of use, SSD dies out...without any warning (unlike HDD, where noise is one of the warnings)... so you better find some RAID0 config that u can use in slightly larger SSD than 60GB... I'm currently running 8 different SSDs of various generations and manufactures. I have experienced 2 SSD failures and multiple HD failures. The SSD failures were perfect, essentially the drives became read only, allowing all the data to be copied off. Sure you can have a controller failure, however this could happen on a HD as well. With hard drives things can go bad very fast when you have a head crash. For both I recommend running a program such as Crystal Disk info which reports the smart data and MWI status to give you a warning of failure.  “Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.” – James Madison (1792) |
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yoro42
Ace Cruncher United States Joined: Feb 19, 2011 Post Count: 8979 Status: Recently Active Project Badges:
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My question was basically, is it worth going for a last generation SSD to save myself some $$$$? Or must I go for the current generation? Since you stated that you are not running the BOINC data directory on the drive, you will not see a significant difference between generations. However make sure you buy a drive with a sata III interface. In the consumer space I recommend either an Intel or Crucial brand for reliability. That's exactly how I got there. My laptop had a totally unrecoverable crash of its 500G HDD, which brought me to the SSHD hybrid drive. I also have a Seagate hybrid SSHD in one of the laptops. After you go through a few boot cycles the boot times on this is very close to a full SSD. This a great compromise between capacity and performance. They also make a full size version for desktops with only 1 drive. but, as u ask about it...I noticed some guys that use SSD say that they got problems with data...after some years of use, SSD dies out...without any warning (unlike HDD, where noise is one of the warnings)... so you better find some RAID0 config that u can use in slightly larger SSD than 60GB... I'm currently running 8 different SSDs of various generations and manufactures. I have experienced 2 SSD failures and multiple HD failures. The SSD failures were perfect, essentially the drives became read only, allowing all the data to be copied off. Sure you can have a controller failure, however this could happen on a HD as well. With hard drives things can go bad very fast when you have a head crash. For both I recommend running a program such as Crystal Disk info which reports the smart data and MWI status to give you a warning of failure. Paul, Thanks for your summary. It has cleared up several questions I had and at least one that had not yet occurred to me. |
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ThreadRipper
Veteran Cruncher Sweden Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Post Count: 1322 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I bought a Crucial MX100 256GB recently. At least here in Sweden it has a very good price point and I like that Crucial use extra capacitors so that the device can finish writing the contents of the cache to disk in case of power failure (such is usually only found in more expensive enterprise classed drives).
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Byteball_730a2960
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Paul,
Thanks for all that input. For me too, it has really cleared up a lot of stuff and helped out. flodisar - I am actually looking at a crucial right now too. It has a very good capacity/price/reputation point for me. I'm going to wait until there is less than 0.5gigabytes of free space on the computer, and I can't find any more space. It seems that most of the space gets used up by updates these days. |
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ThreadRipper
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Yes, so far I am very pleased with the Crucial drive (also running it as a system disk).
----------------------------------------Btw, do you happen to have "System restore points" activated on the SSD? It will eat a lot of the free space on the disk (and shorten its lifespan with all those writes) very fast. I turned it off at least, especially when I also had only a 60GB system SSD. Join The International Team: https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/viewTeamInfo.do?teamId=CK9RP1BKX1 AMD TR2990WX @ PBO, 64GB Quad 3200MHz 14-17-17-17-1T, RX6900XT @ Stock AMD 3800X @ PBO AMD 2700X @ 4GHz |
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Byteball_730a2960
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I'm happy to hear that you like it. Looking at the Newegg reviews etc, most people are very happy with it too.
I typed System Restore into the search under the start button (is this called the run box?) and apparently it is not turned on. I think (but cannot prove conclusively) that program updates seem to be eating into my hard drive space. Does this sound about right? |
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