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A new technology aimed at eliminating genetic disease in newborns would combine the DNA of three people, instead of just two, to create a child.

The Food and Drug Administration is scheduled today and tomorrow to explore the issue at a meeting.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-25/dad-...free-designer-babies.html
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This is potentially scary. It is a huge double edged sword which can used for good or used for evil. We have only barely begun to tap all of the ethical and moral implications here. I see a wonderful world of potential good and a frightful world of potential harm. And even further, this is only the tip of the iceberg for what may be possible in the future. Just because we can do something, does not necessarily mean we should do it. We need to examine a huge range of potential (and possibly unintended ) consequences from ethical, moral, emotional, physical, legal, spiritual and intellectual standpoints. We are certainly on the cusp of uncharted territory.
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This isn't anything new. From the article:
From 1997 to 2003, about 30 children worldwide were born using a method that injected donor mitochondria DNA into eggs after they were fertilized. The first baby born with this technique was reported in 1997. In 2003, though, the FDA told fertility clinics that genetically manipulated embryos were considered a biological product, and subject to regulation, essentially halting the technique in humans.

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The technique described is new, with possibly different implications.
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That's interesting. How is it different? Aren't they essentially doing the same thing? Maybe I didn't pay close enough attention but I thought that they were just swapping out the mitochondria. The amount of mitochondrial DNA compared to nuclear DNA is really tiny. I'd have to check to see if my memory is correct, but I think it's in the low single digits by comparison.

edit: actually it's probably less than 1% since mitochondria only have 37 genes .
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If you bother to read the article, they are swapping in the mother's nuclear DNA into a healthy donor egg from which the nuclear DNA has been removed. Then the egg is being fertilized in vitro, and implanted into the mother (or surrogate, I suppose) for gestation. Once again, great potential promise and great potential problems. Double edged sword.
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That's not much of a difference. Instead of replacing some of the mitochondria you replace all of them.

Anyway, even that isn't anything new. Researchers have been doing this for years to create stem cells. The only thing that's new is that they now want to gestate embryos created this way.

BTW, I did read the article. Actually I read stuff like this on a daily basis through sources like Science Codex. If you were a bit better informed maybe you wouldn't be so amazed.

edit: There's even a wikipedia entry for the three-parent baby .
The process of producing a three-parent baby involves taking the nucleus of one egg and inserting it into the cytoplasm of another egg which has had its nucleus removed, but still contains mitochondrial DNA, and then fertilizing the hybrid egg with a sperm. The purpose of the procedure is to remove a nucleus from a cell with defective mitochondria and place it in a donor cell with healthy mitochondria, which after fertilization will contain a nucleus with genetic material from only the two parents.[5]

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If you were a bit better informed maybe you wouldn't be so amazed.

I read extensively and I hope I never lose the ability to be amazed and my sense of wonderment for that of which we are capable.
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I'm amazed all of the time as well - just not about techniques that I've read about for years if not decades .
The nucleus of a somatic cell is removed and kept, and the host's egg cell nucleus is removed and discarded. Now we have a lone nucleus and an empty (or deprogrammed) egg cell. The lone nucleus is then fused with the 'deprogrammed' egg cell. After being inserted into the egg, the lone (somatic-cell) nucleus is reprogrammed by the host egg cell. The egg, now containing the somatic cell's nucleus, is stimulated with a shock and will begin to divide. After many mitotic divisions, this single cell forms a blastocyst (an early stage embryo with about 100 cells) with almost identical DNA to the original organism. The technique of transferring a nucleus from a somatic cell into an egg that produced Dolly was an extension of experiments that had been ongoing for over 40 years. In the simplest terms, the technique used to produce Dolly the sheep – somatic-cell nuclear transplantation cloning – involves removing the nucleus of an egg and replacing it with the diploid nucleus of a somatic cell.

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And Dolly was not without problems.
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