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Thread: OK, so now I'm in the dog house... |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Could be a process that is not perpetually running, sort of in burst checks if conditions are met, where I've no doubt that the dog-house send-off process is always running. Certainly have seen a case where the switch was not flipped until 23-24 [documented and queried off-line also at the time when 5 was not 5 but effectively a higher number]. You're near I'm sure and have to simply accept... the kennel visits do end for most, all by themselves :D
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Ingleside
Veteran Cruncher Norway Joined: Nov 19, 2005 Post Count: 974 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Could be a process that is not perpetually running, sort of in burst checks if conditions are met, where I've no doubt that the dog-house send-off process is always running. Well, since the WCG-validators isn't running continuously, you're correct, it's not perpetually running... But, if it's not running you're not getting anything validated so... The basic rules are fairly simple, where's a L = limit on how many validated you'll need to be eligible for zero-redundancy. A computer starting on N = 0 follow these rules for all app-version/plan-class-combinations: 1: If N < L, always needs wingman. 2: If a task validates with a wingman, N = N + 1 3: If a task validates but without a wingman, N is left unchanged. 4: If a task fails validation, N = 0 5: When asking for work, if N >= L, where's a 1 / N chance needs a wingman. If is choosen to need a wingman, all work for this app/plan-class in the same scheduler-request needs a wingman. 6: Tasks reported as errors can also influence N. Not sure if missing the deadline also can have an effect. 7: It's possible you're choosen as someone else's wingman even if not choosen in #5. Since all work downloaded before enough validated needs a wingman, it's easy to overlook the exact point don't need a wingman any longer. Also, due to #5, even if don't normally need a wingman any longer, if you're unlucky it still looks like you do. Since it's easy to get 10+ tasks in a single scheduler-request, if you "fails" #5 all 10+ needs a wingman if it's for the same app-version/plan-class.  "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
So, when in the dog house and validators are off, don't fetch work, if you got enough buffered AND if you MM to minimize the wingman dependency.
Seriously, tracked it a few times and then stopped thinking about it. One warning: Do not abort tasks that have already started/are in waiting to run state or you will get that bone to chew on ;>) On deadlines re #6, tasks either user or server aborted, not yet started, do not count against N. Tasks started and still aborted by server [bad batch]... pass, but how often does that happen ;D. |
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Update: I guess I'm a little better... now the WUs I'm receiving are Minimum Quorum: 2, Replication: 2 (Pending Validation). So I seem to making points and being trusted a little more
---------------------------------------- . From a crunching point of view, there is no difference (I crunch the same amount of WUs), it just takes a little longer to get the validation. No problem, I'm cool. I'm trying REALLY, REALLY hard to make it to emerald for GFAM (so far I have 309 days crunched). Gotta...keep...crunching...CJSL Crunching for a better future... |
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asdavid
Veteran Cruncher FRANCE Joined: Nov 18, 2004 Post Count: 521 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Good luck, cjsl
----------------------------------------I have this morning 317.. Not sure i will do it 
Anne-Sophie
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Anne-Sophie, thank you very much... I wish you a lot of luck also. This morning I'm at 316 days... 365 is SO close, but also SO far
----------------------------------------. Gotta... keep... crunching...CJSL Crunching for a better world... |
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