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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

I've also seen an lot of these coming through recently - with a very short run time for the wingman and nothing in their results log except:
<core_client_version>6.10.25</core_client_version>


If people are somehow deliberately creating these invalid results and extra work for the sake of points then it is very sad! sad
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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

This phenomenon is not limited to VINA projects. Here is one from HCC.
X0900129570753201109071109_ 2-- 705 Pending Validation 4/7/13 15:24:06 4/8/13 06:42:26 2.63 57.2 / 0.0 < mine
X0900129570753201109071109_ 0-- 705 Error 4/7/13 15:22:24 4/7/13 15:24:00 0.00 64.2 / 0.0
X0900129570753201109071109_ 1-- - In Progress 4/7/13 15:22:18 4/14/13 15:22:18 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
With zero in the elapsed time they are getting infinite points per hour. crying
Maybe once it validates the error points will disappear. I will see if I can track it, before the record of it disappears. I did see several others where the error unit received zero points with zero elapsed time.
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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

This has to be some bug (but I also noticed it today) - errored WU's have never received points, only Invalids ones (the half of Valids) confused

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ETA: here is the one of HCC1 tasks with error - no credits granted.

X0930128410059201106241353_ 2-- 713 Valid 5.4.2013 18:59:25 8.4.2013 19:13:38 0.02 70.8 / 67.5
X0930128410059201106241353_ 1-- 713 Valid 4.4.2013 18:14:05 4.4.2013 23:16:55 0.02 64.2 / 67.5
X0930128410059201106241353_ 0-- 713 Error 4.4.2013 18:13:22 5.4.2013 18:55:06 0.00 63.9 / 0.0
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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

I am very unhappy for too many task with Pending Verification! My tasks after 5-6 h of working begins a suplimentar expectation time.
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Mine appear normal.....


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Result Name Device Name Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time / Elapsed Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
DSFL_ 00070-24_ 0000055_ 0274_ 0-- John-DT300W64 In Progress 4/9/13 00:34:29 4/18/13 10:55:09 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-24_ 0000055_ 0246_ 0-- John-DT300W64 In Progress 4/9/13 00:34:29 4/18/13 10:55:09 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-24_ 0000055_ 0741_ 0-- John-DT300W64 In Progress 4/9/13 00:34:29 4/18/13 10:55:09 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-24_ 0000025_ 0321_ 0-- John-DT300W64 In Progress 4/7/13 22:17:25 4/17/13 22:17:25 0.00 / 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-24_ 0000024_ 0832_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 21:47:33 4/9/13 09:08:49 5.28 / 6.28 136.5 / 136.5
DSFL_ 00070-18_ 0000026_ 0710_ 1-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 17:02:08 4/9/13 03:51:26 3.78 / 4.65 100.9 / 106.4
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000056_ 0441_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 10:40:53 4/8/13 10:55:14 3.53 / 4.86 110.0 / 110.0
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000051_ 0618_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 08:41:23 4/8/13 10:55:14 4.75 / 6.65 150.6 / 150.6
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000051_ 1232_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 08:41:23 4/8/13 10:55:14 4.15 / 5.89 133.4 / 133.4
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000051_ 0273_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 08:41:23 4/8/13 10:55:14 4.06 / 5.47 123.9 / 123.9
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000051_ 0577_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 08:41:23 4/8/13 10:55:14 3.94 / 5.39 121.9 / 121.9
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000036_ 1060_ 2-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 03:51:37 4/7/13 17:02:08 4.21 / 5.95 142.0 / 130.6
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000036_ 0474_ 2-- John-DT300W64 Pending Validation 4/7/13 03:45:14 4/7/13 10:40:53 4.48 / 6.22 151.7 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-23_ 0000036_ 0943_ 1-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/7/13 03:44:57 4/7/13 10:40:53 3.93 / 5.44 132.5 / 127.0

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Result Name Device Name Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time / Elapsed Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
DSFL_ 00070-18_ 0000054_ 0814_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Pending Validation 4/1/13 22:58:19 4/6/13 22:11:55 3.54 / 4.87 108.2 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-18_ 0000054_ 1371_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Pending Validation 4/1/13 22:58:19 4/4/13 10:32:34 3.63 / 5.05 97.7 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-18_ 0000054_ 1249_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/1/13 22:58:19 4/3/13 10:25:09 3.31 / 4.44 86.0 / 89.9
DSFL_ 00070-18_ 0000054_ 0080_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Pending Validation 4/1/13 22:58:19 4/3/13 03:30:26 4.07 / 5.34 99.3 / 0.0
DSFL_ 00070-18_ 0000054_ 1318_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Valid 4/1/13 22:58:19 4/6/13 12:42:07 3.60 / 5.20 104.1 / 99.5
DSFL_ 00070-18_ 0000054_ 0892_ 0-- John-DT300W64 Pending Validation 4/1/13 22:58:19 4/6/13 23:17:52 3.73 / 5.16 115.4 / 0.0
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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

I agree, I also now have 2 of 3 boxes with 100% of my 2 day cache infected, maybe a tech could acknowledge they have at least read this thread.
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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

This phenomenon is not limited to VINA projects. Here is one from HCC.
X0900129570753201109071109_ 2-- 705 Pending Validation 4/7/13 15:24:06 4/8/13 06:42:26 2.63 57.2 / 0.0 < mine
X0900129570753201109071109_ 0-- 705 Error 4/7/13 15:22:24 4/7/13 15:24:00 0.00 64.2 / 0.0
X0900129570753201109071109_ 1-- - In Progress 4/7/13 15:22:18 4/14/13 15:22:18 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
With zero in the elapsed time they are getting infinite points per hour. crying
Maybe once it validates the error points will disappear. I will see if I can track it, before the record of it disappears. I did see several others where the error unit received zero points with zero elapsed time.
Cheers

here is the followup:
X0900129570753201109071109_ 2-- 705 Valid 4/7/13 15:24:06 4/8/13 06:42:26 2.63 57.2 / 60.5 < mine
X0900129570753201109071109_ 0-- 705 Error 4/7/13 15:22:24 4/7/13 15:24:00 0.00 64.2 / 0.0
X0900129570753201109071109_ 1-- 705 Valid 4/7/13 15:22:18 4/9/13 14:08:27 2.17 63.8 / 60.5

Even though the errored one claimed 64.2 points with zero elapsed time, it was granted zero points. It appears the system is functioning correctly once the WU are validated.

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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

Original problem is Invalid results on VINA project; and is still there.
Results with only one line: <core_client_version>6.10.25</core_client_version> and turning first to Pending Verification, then invalid with very short run time
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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

Mine look normal except when I see that the wingman errored it's usually because of version 6.10.17.

GFAM_ x1A58_ BmCypA_ 0092106_ 0078_ 3-- - In Progress 10-04-2013 13:13:50 14-04-2013 13:13:50 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
GFAM_ x1A58_ BmCypA_ 0092106_ 0078_ 2-- - In Progress 10-04-2013 13:13:49 14-04-2013 13:13:49 0.00 0.0 / 0.0 ---> Mine
GFAM_ x1A58_ BmCypA_ 0092106_ 0078_ 1-- 612 Error 10-04-2013 12:35:34 10-04-2013 12:39:26 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
GFAM_ x1A58_ BmCypA_ 0092106_ 0078_ 0-- 612 Error 10-04-2013 11:57:51 10-04-2013 13:01:15 0.00 0.0 / 0.0


<core_client_version>6.10.17</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
too many exit(0)s
</message>
]]>

These problematic versions should be banned. WCG should tell those users to upgrade.
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Re: Vina projects invalid gets 100 Points/Hr

Original problem is Invalid results on VINA project; and is still there.
Results with only one line: <core_client_version>6.10.25</core_client_version> and turning first to Pending Verification, then invalid with very short run time


Well said, Anne-Sophie.

The OP's example didn't actually show the problem, though the title of this thread says it all. Here's another example from me from today:

Result Name App Version Number Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time / Elapsed Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
GFAM_ x1CWJ_ hCypA_ 0091624_ 0061_ 4-- 612 Valid 09/04/13 19:52:41 10/04/13 12:08:48 5.46 106.7 / 100.8
GFAM_ x1CWJ_ hCypA_ 0091624_ 0061_ 3-- 612 Invalid 09/04/13 17:23:54 09/04/13 19:51:51 0.62 26.8 / 50.4
GFAM_ x1CWJ_ hCypA_ 0091624_ 0061_ 2-- 612 Valid 08/04/13 14:05:17 09/04/13 17:23:13 5.08 94.9 / 100.8
GFAM_ x1CWJ_ hCypA_ 0091624_ 0061_ 1-- 612 Error 08/04/13 14:00:55 08/04/13 14:04:56 0.00 92.0 / 0.0
GFAM_ x1CWJ_ hCypA_ 0091624_ 0061_ 0-- 612 Invalid 08/04/13 12:53:52 08/04/13 14:05:57 0.34 16.3 / 50.4

The first person to get this WU got 148 PPH. That can't be right! The points awarded for Invalids seems to be on the basis that they at least finished processing the WU. I can't believe that either of these did...
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