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Former Member
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Also, there is an option in the BOINC manager to lower the amount of virtual memory used (at least in 7.0.42). Under Tools-->Computer Preferences-->Disk and Memory Usage -- then lower the percentage of swap space used.
Keep in mind, this alone did not stop the excessive writes. |
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Jim1348
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I think that SSDs are in practice a lot more durable than their official numbers indicate, but still I get nervous too, at least on CEP2.
----------------------------------------I also turn off swap space in BOINC Manager, and also set Memory usage to higher values (75%/90%) than the default, though whether that does any good I don't know. But using enough RAM (8 GB for running CEP2 on four-cores and 16 GB for 8-cores should work), along with the Ramdisk for the BOINC data directly, should make all of that irrelevant; nothing (except the program file) should then get to the SSD. If you don't use a Ramdisk, then I think your 8 GB should be plenty, though the other disk then gets a thrashing if it is mechanical; maybe a large on-disk cache would reduce that to reasonable levels. [Edit 4 times, last edit by Jim1348 at Mar 9, 2013 5:39:29 PM] |
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Former Member
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Just a comment about virtual memory. Many operating systems such as Windows try to write blocks of virtual memory to secondary storage before the RAM space is actually needed. That way they are ahead of the game when memory is needed. Instead of waiting geological eons for RAM to write to disk, the OS simply reallocates a block of memory that has already been written to disk. The result can be a large memory system of, for example, 8 GB which continuously writes to disk but never bothers to read from disk. All those writes to the Virtual Memory file are not needed, they are precautionary. Unfortunately, it can happen that a bloated OS starts out with a lot of RAM used at boot that will eventually be used, perhaps at shutdown. Then VM is needed, even though no BOINC program ever needs to read from the VM file.
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The later Windows and CPUs do reading in anticipation for what they might need, but they learn so it's not like getting stupid and use ReadyBoost when they can [got a section on my USB 3.0 drive allocated for W7, and still it's a snail compared to Ubuntu 13.04].
Dealing with a SSD I've already noted the Write to Disk setting, which all sciences but CEP2 listen to [CEP2 has no reason since it only writes 16 checkpoints in a span of 12 hours tops]. Unrelated, here's the fun part, W8 is starting to offload when it can to the GPU, which may be part of the explanation of the continuous driver crashing when trying to GPU crunch while in use, as what I observed. At any rate, we've completed 7 targets on C4CW and it's questionable if the scientists decide to do more runs. If they would, under the "what's not broken wont be fixed" rule and 37.6 thousand runtime years under the belt, very much doubt it will be addressed for the few that do observe an issue with this application. The last run took about 1700 years and 64 days to complete. |
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I noted the high disk usage using the latest Samsung SSD Magician at first. I managed to write 2.2TB within 20 days, which wasn't making any sense to me at the time. If you don't have a Samsung SSD, but would like to know your total host writes, you could use (and I also use, from time to time) CrystalDiskInfo . It's freeware and gives me the exact same S.M.A.R.T. data I'd otherwise get using Magician Software. I believe normal disk usage is around 10GB (± 5GB) per day.
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