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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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...having had my last comment on this subject deleted (censored?)(what ever happened to free speech?) I still want to express my opinion - who gives a d**n about what the rest of BOINC is doing? WCG was here before Boinc and WCG is all that matters. The softies should concentrate on the science and crunching and not worry about something as insignificant as an *. As far as I agree with you that things like asterisk in nickname are not important for majority of us, for few others they are. And you know: small pixels make big picture. Everyone of us has different way to stars. So, let support everyone (if we can) if his/her way is peaceful. And let be thankful for everyone who is trying to find some  Cheers my friends  *edited to appropriate forum language - ErikaT  Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006  [Edit 1 times, last edit by ErikaT at Jan 9, 2013 12:25:10 PM] |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Why you are wondering? It is our way to find a way to the stars  .Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006 |
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astrolabe.
Senior Cruncher Joined: May 9, 2011 Post Count: 496 Status: Offline |
You make a good point and it deserves a response.
What i have a problem understanding is; why cant the questions here just be accepted as being There are a many people who assume that because they WANT something to change, that the change is NECESSARY and they often get down right indignant if they don't get what they want.a real issue - and taken up as that - instead of people getting annoyed at those of us who asks? ;-) "Let`s do the "close eyes and use any denfence possible" to make those *-guys look ridiculous-game." ;-)) Well.. thanx for saying Something at least. ;-D We`ll see what 2013 may bring. WCG is not a service organization. WCG staff are not required to do any work requested by crunchers so no one is required to do anything with it. When that is felt to be unacceptable, then it has often lead to ranting on this forum. Many of us are sick and tired of reading posts filled with righteous indignation about some totally unreasonable request rightfully being completely ignored. Some of the respondents in this thread may have classified you in that group. The true answer to your question is: 'it doesn't work that way' and unfortunately for you, there is no one who is required to make that change, no matter how hard you plead, although some day a change MAY be made as a result of a policy change implemented by WCG Administration. That explanation applies to almost every single request ever posted on this forum. |
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johncmacalister2010@gmail.com
Veteran Cruncher Canada Joined: Nov 16, 2010 Post Count: 799 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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You make a good point and it deserves a response. What i have a problem understanding is; why cant the questions here just be accepted as being There are a many people who assume that because they WANT something to change, that the change is NECESSARY and they often get down right indignant if they don't get what they want.a real issue - and taken up as that - instead of people getting annoyed at those of us who asks? ;-) "Let`s do the "close eyes and use any denfence possible" to make those *-guys look ridiculous-game." ;-)) Well.. thanx for saying Something at least. ;-D We`ll see what 2013 may bring. WCG is not a service organization. WCG staff are not required to do any work requested by crunchers so no one is required to do anything with it. When that is felt to be unacceptable, then it has often lead to ranting on this forum. Many of us are sick and tired of reading posts filled with righteous indignation about some totally unreasonable request rightfully being completely ignored. Some of the respondents in this thread may have classified you in that group. The true answer to your question is: 'it doesn't work that way' and unfortunately for you, there is no one who is required to make that change, no matter how hard you plead, although some day a change MAY be made as a result of a policy change implemented by WCG Administration. That explanation applies to almost every single request ever posted on this forum.   crunching, crunching, crunching. AMD Ryzen 5 2600 6-core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor with Windows 11 64 Pro (part time) |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
We have a simple inconsistency between what characters are allowed during member name creation and modifying said. The web-dev is doubtlessly aware now of the thread, since it's the admin/moderator reading [and we know intervented once] and passing issue reports to the right people. ETA of fix... open.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Well, I want the asterisk, so
----------------------------------------*Make It So* Oh, wait....wrong universe. Sorry about that. But seriously...I wouldn't be surprised if the input characters were defined not by the web site display or ease of input requirements but by underlying SQL or other code requirements deep in the guts of WCG. Most of us who have written much code that actually had to manipulate a lot of data - especially data that depended upon the weakest link, manual input - aren't very fond of characters that can be (depending upon the database and programming language in use, and those change) interpreted as wildcard or pattern matching characters . That would include "?", "_", "*" and "%", for example (again, depending upon variants of languages/SQL in use...). Such restrictions are so "normal" that you can often derive information about the underlying language/database in use by what is permitted as input characters. To give an example of both how they are used and why they can be a problem, under the right circumstances such characters result in "Ted*" being equivalent to "Ted34568" to the computer software. And there are risks to permitting such characters...there's a flock of individuals out there that specialize in breaking websites and computer security using what is known as a SQL injection attack ...and permitting anything approximating a wildcard or pattern matching character is both a door and a giant sign that says "We're Open For Raiding!". The time requirement to make the changes is one thing and may be quite significant all by itself...but the time required to make sure you didn't just open a back door into your systems that would jeopardize the tens of thousands of And the WCG science is important...it is no exaggeration to say that lives are on the line. I'm a member of team Sicituradastra, and as much as I'd like to see the team get to use the asterisk, I'm quite well aware that what seems to be a simple request may involve churning though great masses of code to test, debug, and harden it...it takes special techniques to permit wildcard/pattern matching characters. (Note: I was not a member of the team when the asterisk was first chosen or I would have attempted to explain this ahead of time. And finally don't think "He's trying to make me look selfish!". That is not the case...I know most people don't know what goes on "behind the scenes" of things computational...this is an informational message, only.) (Edit: Changed "hours" to "years"...sort of understated the donated computer time that would be placed at risk.  )[Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jan 11, 2013 9:27:03 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You put the finger right on the sore spot. So true.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You make a good point and it deserves a response. What i have a problem understanding is; why cant the questions here just be accepted as being There are a many people who assume that because they WANT something to change, that the change is NECESSARY and they often get down right indignant if they don't get what they want.a real issue - and taken up as that - instead of people getting annoyed at those of us who asks? ;-) "Let`s do the "close eyes and use any denfence possible" to make those *-guys look ridiculous-game." ;-)) Well.. thanx for saying Something at least. ;-D We`ll see what 2013 may bring. WCG is not a service organization. WCG staff are not required to do any work requested by crunchers so no one is required to do anything with it. When that is felt to be unacceptable, then it has often lead to ranting on this forum. Many of us are sick and tired of reading posts filled with righteous indignation about some totally unreasonable request rightfully being completely ignored. Some of the respondents in this thread may have classified you in that group. The true answer to your question is: 'it doesn't work that way' and unfortunately for you, there is no one who is required to make that change, no matter how hard you plead, although some day a change MAY be made as a result of a policy change implemented by WCG Administration. That explanation applies to almost every single request ever posted on this forum. astrolabe and John.. The true point here is that we have Asked a question about IF we can get this changed, and if not, Why not. Because this question has never been replied to in a serious way, it has been asked again. Its quite interesting that its someone from my/our own team that finally answer in the way it should have been done when this question first came up. If the rest of WCG wants to "classify" me in any negative way because I would like an explanation - mainly not for my own sake, but for everyone who have already asked, and never gotten a proper reply - well then - call me what ever you want.  At least there now is written something about the "case" - and not only the normal defence talk.  @ ibsteve2u : Thank you!  |
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nanoprobe
Master Cruncher Classified Joined: Aug 29, 2008 Post Count: 2998 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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(what ever happened to free speech?) No such thing on moderated forums.
In 1969 I took an oath to defend and protect the U S Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and Domestic. There was no expiration date.
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uplinger
Former World Community Grid Tech Joined: May 23, 2005 Post Count: 3952 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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archeye and all,
I have added a task to the database to investigate the inconsistencies in our member name rules as you have noticed by Sekerob's test. The complexity of the problem is not as straight forward as one would expect. ibsteve2u explains some of the issues with allowing special characters to be used on login. And now the bad news...I do not know when we will have time to investigate this as we have other pressing tasks that need to be dealt with first. Since this would involve a change to the login code, it will require extensive testing. Thank you for your suggestion, -Uplinger |
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