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I recently found in Kickstarter that there's a game changer project called Parallella. It's a 2 core ARM processor that serves as a frontend to a 16/64 RISC processor supercomputer that is really small, and in 64 cores mode with average worlkload it consumes around 5 watts between all cores. The 16 cores version is being offered as a $99 pledge, while the 64 versions will be available later.
This has the potential to be amazingly fast for BOINC work, but only if it's backed on kickstart and then becomes supported in places like this one. Parallella on Kickstarter |
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retsof
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That depends on whether the science programs can be written in the limited Reduced Instruction Set capability, as opposed to the full function.
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The complete source, including the GPU code and the hybrid RMSD subroutine, can be downloaded and used without restriction at... The implementation is in C++/OpenCL. -- snip from WCG news article : Bioinformatics Application Note published by the Nutritious Rice for the World researchers The Parallella computers will ship with a Linux Ubuntu distribution and an open source SDK for developing applications for the Epiphany architecture using C, C++ and/or OpenCL. Once the Parallella project is fully funded, Adapteva will also take the bold step of releasing its existing software development tools, drivers and libraries under a true open source license and will publish the Epiphany chip architecture reference manuals and datasheets publicly. Board design files and board support packages for the Parallella computer will be delivered to the public in open source format and available for everyone to use free of charge and without restrictions. -- snip from HPCwire.com article : Adapteva Creates Kickstarter Campaign to Fund Supercomputing Platform The CO-PRocessing THReads (COPRTHR) SDK provides several OpenCL related libraries and tools that simplify the use of heterogeneous computing platforms for developers targeting GPU compute technology and hybrid CPU/GPU computing architectures. -- snip from http://www.browndeertechnology.com/coprthr.htm Lots of buzz there around open-source, OpenCL, and GPU-computing. The Parallella project may be shaping up as a candidate focal point to bring it all together. I see an opportunity for IBM, the parent-company of WCG, to take a key role in orchestrating the confluence of open-source + OpenCL + GPU/CPU heterogenous-computing and the prospect of making grid-computing use of "Epiphany microprocessor chips that lead the world in processor energy efficiency." ; |
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xiaou
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While Parallella looks cool and would definitely be neat to mess around with but, would it be any easier to bring WCG work to this platform than it would be to bring more projects to GPU's or FPGA's?
Those bitcoin mining FPGA boards are pretty affordable and can do an absolutely obscene amount of crunching. I guess they can only do really simple work since I've only ever heard of seti & folding considering using them so maybe I'm dead wrong and FPGA's are all but useless to WCG where Parallella would shine. I think they're all RISC based though. I would drop a couple hundred for WCG specific hardware. $150 or so to get 5,000 cores on a project would be awesome. It seems to me that a thousand of those would just about double to amount of work done on those projects that don't support GPU's. Without being supported by WCG though, there's not a single reason for me to have one. So I don't. Parallella looks cool but if I get to choose which currently unsupported platform I'd like to see WCG begin supporting, I pick the one with the most cores for the least cash. Sixteen cores with future support for 64 is neat but GPU's routinely have over 2,000, FPGA's more than twice that (I think) and WCG doesn't support Beowulf clusters anyway. |
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Coleslaw
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knreed mentioned that there were future plans to look into such technologies, but it doesn't seem like a whole lot of push going on. Right now it is GPU focus. I would love an ARM compatible app here. We already have nativeBOINC running quite well on other projects. All we need now is an Android + ARM compatible app here.
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kateiacy
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knreed mentioned that there were future plans to look into such technologies, but it doesn't seem like a whole lot of push going on. Right now it is GPU focus. I would love an ARM compatible app here. We already have nativeBOINC running quite well on other projects. All we need now is an Android + ARM compatible app here. Coleslaw -- I found the web page for downloading nativeBOINC. What projects have apps for it?  |
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Falconet
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They have surpassed their goal.
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branjo
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Congrats to them. Wondering what will this mean for future of computing.
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Coleslaw
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knreed mentioned that there were future plans to look into such technologies, but it doesn't seem like a whole lot of push going on. Right now it is GPU focus. I would love an ARM compatible app here. We already have nativeBOINC running quite well on other projects. All we need now is an Android + ARM compatible app here. Coleslaw -- I found the web page for downloading nativeBOINC. What projects have apps for it? The download page has a statistics tab to it. That is the current list. But here are the ones I know of: milkyway, OProject, PrimeGrid, WUProp, enigma, and subsetsum Edit: Here is the other thread I have discussed this in. https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,29427 [Edit 1 times, last edit by Coleslaw at Oct 27, 2012 3:44:41 PM] |
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Amelior Scout
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I've been keeping up with that project for about a week. I was excited to see that BOINC caught word of it too! :)
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