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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Over the last year the IBM member has increased very sensibly its contribution. If I look at yesterday stats the share of IBM is as follows:
----------------------------------------Results: 13% Points: 13% Runtime: 13% This means that IBM who finances the WCG indeed uses it and contributes seriously to the science projects and every day more. Excellent, and I can only thank IBM for that. Nevertheless this generates some mixed feelings. IBM has the processing power if they want to to go even higher than that. 30% or more why not, all the best for science projects. But it will more and more dwarf the contribution off all the others. In short WCG will become more of an internal IBM project or initiative. There could be a feeling for the small and very small contributors that their crunching capability would have a relatively much more important weight in other grid projects that do not have the chance to have a behemoth like IBM as a member and as a sponsor.  |
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Richard Mitnick
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Hypernova-
----------------------------------------I, for one, am delighted to see a big participation by IBM. We should have every desktop computer operating in every office at IBM world over. But, I must say, I had no idea how big or small was the IBM contribution until your post. While I am a fairly sizable contributor, I swim with the minnows here. And, that's fine, I do not care. And, believe me, most of the minnows do not care. I do this for the pure joy of helping Citizen Cyber-science to bring help to mankind. If you had not posted this, I would not have had the foggiest idea about their actual presence. |
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mikey
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Over the last year the IBM member has increased very sensibly its contribution. If I look at yesterday stats the share of IBM is as follows: Results: 13% Points: 13% Runtime: 13% This means that IBM who finances the WCG indeed uses it and contributes seriously to the science projects and every day more. Excellent, and I can only thank IBM for that. Nevertheless this generates some mixed feelings. IBM has the processing power if they want to to go even higher than that. 30% or more why not, all the best for science projects. But it will more and more dwarf the contribution off all the others. In short WCG will become more of an internal IBM project or initiative. There could be a feeling for the small and very small contributors that their crunching capability would have a relatively much more important weight in other grid projects that do not have the chance to have a behemoth like IBM as a member and as a sponsor. I am wondering if any of those stats include any projects unavailable to the public? I do NOT even know if WCG/IBM does that but it seems to be the logical way for a small project to get its work done. Like something that might only run for 6 months or less is what I am thinking   |
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Former Member
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Standard bog down, same scheduler queue as everyone else, no special tier for the 'in' crowd. The labor investment [by the WCG development team] is the same... 6-9 months before a launch, which is why you wont see one-day flies on the grid.
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cjslman
Master Cruncher Mexico Joined: Nov 23, 2004 Post Count: 2082 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I'm not sure what the point of hypernova's post is.
----------------------------------------IBM has the processing power if they want to to go even higher than that. 30% or more why not, all the best for science projects. But it will more and more dwarf the contribution off all the others. In short WCG will become more of an internal IBM project or initiative. There could be a feeling for the small and very small contributors that their crunching capability would have a relatively much more important weight in other grid projects that do not have the chance to have a behemoth like IBM as a member and as a sponsor. So now it's not good to have big crunchers in WCG? I can only come to 2 conclusions from the above quote: - Let's kick IBM (and other big contributors) off WCG or - Let's all quit WCG and leave all the WCG crunching to IBM ... which of course is not logical, if not ludicrous. I, for one, am really not bothered what the other big crunchers do. I'm proud of my participation in the WCG. Why? Because I am part of the mayor part of this effort that is trying to make a difference on this island called Earth. Now, let's look at this from another point of view.... the Olympics. Lets apply the same logic to the large Olympic participants... US, Russia and China. Do we apply the above to the Olympics? No. Do we create 2 Olympics: one for the large countries/participants and one for the small ones? No. We all participate the best we can and contribute the best we can and together, as a ONE, we make a difference in our world. CJSL |
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knreed
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In 3Q last year, we were able to get the World Community Grid software pre-installed on the Windows 7 image used for deployment in many business units and geographies. As laptops/workstations are replaced through the normal upgrade cycle, many will now run World Community Grid 'out of the box'.
Having said that, in some cases, individuals who were personally signed up previously are not switching from the default 'IBM' user installed on their laptop back to their personal account. We are looking at ways to make it easier and encourage people to re-register their computer under a personal account. We are interested the dual goals of having both individuals engaged as well as a having a large number of devices contributing. |
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knreed
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I am wondering if any of those stats include any projects unavailable to the public? I do NOT even know if WCG/IBM does that but it seems to be the logical way for a small project to get its work done. Like something that might only run for 6 months or less is what I am thinking No, the IBM user contribution has access to only the exact same things that everyone else does. The install is done using the same techniques described here: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/bg/BOINCMassInstall.pdf |
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jonnieb-uk
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@ Hypernova
----------------------------------------I think your stats understate the size of the IBM contribution! If you take into account the 110+ teams tagged IBM and located at the various outstations around the world the contribution to yesterday's total crunching is RT 17.0% Pts. 16.4% Res. 17.2%. I'm in agreement with cjslman We all participate the best we can and contribute the best we can and together, as a ONE, we make a difference in our world. and mitrichr I do this for the pure joy of helping Citizen Cyber-science to bring help to mankind. I might ask the question of IBM Corporate - Why, given that WGC is a "good thing" enjoying the enthusiastic support of IBM employees worldwide, the level of corporate sponsorship of WGC can not be increased?  |
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rilian
Veteran Cruncher Ukraine - we rule! Joined: Jun 17, 2007 Post Count: 1460 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I believe success of IBM's preinstalling of WCG would be a good example for other "big" companies and they will install BOINC along with big respectful projects (wcg, rosetta, einstein) by default on their machines
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mikey
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In 3Q last year, we were able to get the World Community Grid software pre-installed on the Windows 7 image used for deployment in many business units and geographies. As laptops/workstations are replaced through the normal upgrade cycle, many will now run World Community Grid 'out of the box'. Having said that, in some cases, individuals who were personally signed up previously are not switching from the default 'IBM' user installed on their laptop back to their personal account. We are looking at ways to make it easier and encourage people to re-register their computer under a personal account. We are interested the dual goals of having both individuals engaged as well as a having a large number of devices contributing. ALRIGHT!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! Now if you can get into ALL Windows installations that would be even better!!! What a GREAT first step though!!! Maybe to encourage people to sing up under their own name you could encourage competition between divisions or groups of people. [Edit 1 times, last edit by mikey159b at Jun 16, 2012 12:10:07 PM] |
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