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badge reform

Hi All,
I like the badges, and while Ive read other posts that suggest the badges destroy a sense of community, and invoke power struggles such as competition, ..I don't care. It all goes to a good cause.

I think the badges are great if i want to easily tell what someone cares about, and is donating more time to. The pit fall is that, for the upper margin users of WCG, The badges are indistinguishable, and you have to look at numbers.

Perhaps another idea is to have a graph describing what percentage of a members time goes to which project.
I have blue for nearly all the projects I am on, but have 10+ years on finding a cure for childhood cancer, and clean water research. Im interested in getting an idea about what everyone else cares about, and wish badges did not stop short after 2 years.
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gb009761
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Re: badge reform

Hi godkiller, quite a few threads have already covered the aspect of the highest badge currently being placed at the 2 year mark (which, as you say, doesn't then give a true representation of progress after that mark).

One way to get around this a few crunchers have used, is to include their project totals in their signatures - as that way, it illustrates the projects they've contributed to most. Another way, is to utilise the signature block another cruncher (SNURK) has created for numerous other crunchers (myself included), as that then shows their total contributions.

On a personal note, I don't really have any specific favourites - they're all good and worthy projects in my eyes, and so, currently, my initial aim is to get them all up to the 1 year mark with the limited resources I've got. Then, perhaps, make a determined run at Sapphire for the odd project.
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cjslman
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Re: badge reform

Yeap, I agree, the badges are cool and for the most of us, it pushes us on to keep crunching further (I do not agree that badges invoke power struggle... I have not seen that as of yet).
Maybe to get the point through, some statistics need to be provided to show how many crunchers have a need for badges beyond 2 years (5 years, 10 years, etc).

CJSL

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Re: badge reform

Perhaps another idea is to have a graph describing what percentage of a members time goes to which project.
I have blue for nearly all the projects I am on, but have 10+ years on finding a cure for childhood cancer, and clean water research. Im interested in getting an idea about what everyone else cares about, and wish badges did not stop short after 2 years.


You could do what some of us do (see sig).

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rembertw
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Re: badge reform

... Im interested in getting an idea about what everyone else cares about, ...

My top 2 projects, with both about 18 cpu years, (FAAH and HPF2) are not so high "because I really care extra", but rather because they are around for so long and I don't bother to deselect them during normal crunching times to help "favourites".

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Re: badge reform

Actually one thing I do find with the badges topping out at 2 years is that for new projects there seems to be a period of maybe 3-6 months where initially all the big crunchers are jumping on a new project hard to get their blue/green badges in short order (and happily talk back and forth about how fast they got them). And good for them to get a new project fast out of the block that way. But it is nice that after that inital rush the big crunchers back off to more normal 'crunching all projects' mode and that give us smaller crunchers a chance to get some WUs too and work on picking up our badges too. Now since my mighty team of two laptops (one is my HP dv7 quad core, the other my family home single core laptop), team rbotterb takes awhile to get a badge here and there (I just got my bronze S2NS badge, hope to get to silver by mid-May and maybe even get to gold by sometime in July 2012). I wouldn't mind if the big crunchers got a new badge out there to shoot for (like a 5 year badge), but I'm thinking to share the badge wealth and keep all crunchers big and small in the crunching game, there would be a rule that crunching for the new 5 year badge didn't get counted until say 12 months on the project had passed. That way us small crunchers get a chance to get some badge building and when the projects slow down in their progess to completion after awhile, it would give a second round shot in the arm for the big crunchers to move things along faster again.

Just my two cents from us little guys.....
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Re: badge reform

It's not about the badges, it's about the science. It's about how to get the 776,280 (yesterday's) WU done each day and how to increase that. It's not about how to encourage more people to finish 1 WU each day. It IS about how to get more people finishing 100 or 200 WU per day.

It is a great thing to have nearly 100,000 people helping with WCG each day, but yesterday we had only 4826 members who did more than 25 WU. crying The top 20 members contributed 22% of the day's work. 20 out of 100,000.

I have always been supportive of every member being recognized for their contribution, no matter their level of effort. My badges show I have 30.5 years complete. I actually have 83.5 years. Let's not punish the people who are delivering the finished project. You are at a point where your contribution IS still being recognized. Consider yourself fortunate. biggrin
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Well then how about a set of badges for accumulated time across all projects! Then you could have increments of say 1, 2 5, 10, 15, 20 ..... years out into the future. A team could then get credit no matter what projects they are crunching which would spread their work out across all projects for mutual benefit. And these new badges are given out for all work done to date all the way back to the beginning of WCG. That way if some if someone has 80+ years in the till already they can get credit for all the lower level badges up to the 80 year mark to show everyone all the crunching they have done for humanity.

If the WCG accepts this idea, then the only issue would be to what badge design to use for these new badges - and of course there can even be a contest by all WCG members to offer up their designs for consideration.

So any interest in pushing for these new badges with WCG big crunchers?
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Re: badge reform

So any interest in pushing for these new badges with WCG big crunchers?
I already have 83 years done. Badges across all projects are a waste of time, IMHO.
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