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How many researchers are aware of WCG?

As some of you will know, I've been a very enthusiastic supporter of WCG, and distributed computing in general, for a long time. I'm personally a particular fan of drug-discovery projects.

I sometimes wonder how many researchers at the sharp end are actually aware of the potential of WCG. We have a massively powerful resource here - do the right people know about it? For example, in the average research hospital there will be many teams each doing research in their own specialism. Some of them could no doubt benefit from WCG - how would they be expected to know about it in the first place? Are the services of WCG ever "advertised" to potential research teams?

Is there anything we members can do to publicise it a bit - not only to other people to run on their computers to provide the computing power, but to researchers who could actually *use* it?

And an even broader question: Is there any information available to the public about what research proposals get submitted every quarter? How they decide which ones to choose?
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Re: How many researchers are aware of WCG?

Will only address your last question: Proposals remain confidential, received, reviewed, approved or rejected. Very very occasionally WCG will pre-announce a project adoption, like the 3 Water related researches and the knowing that one or the other phase I will get a phase II, but that's about as good as it gets.

Articles of papers that refer to WCG in science journals are routes to reach other scientists interested in computational biology / chemistry with humanitarian / environmental objective. Those projects have to be of sufficient size... with present grid performance and standard share being done in a few weeks will not get on [and has happened to get rejected because of this, which then remains confidential as far as WCG is concerned]

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Re: How many researchers are aware of WCG?

As some of you will know, I've been a very enthusiastic supporter of WCG, and distributed computing in general, for a long time. I'm personally a particular fan of drug-discovery projects.

I sometimes wonder how many researchers at the sharp end are actually aware of the potential of WCG. We have a massively powerful resource here - do the right people know about it? For example, in the average research hospital there will be many teams each doing research in their own specialism. Some of them could no doubt benefit from WCG - how would they be expected to know about it in the first place? Are the services of WCG ever "advertised" to potential research teams?


I can sorta kinda answer this one....my son just got his PHD in Chemistry from UNC, Chapel Hill, he had never even heard of VINA when I asked him about it. So there IS a disconnect between Universities and the use of pc's to help them. BUT he also said a lot of Universities are doing research on projects that have been going on for many years. He, for instance, got his degree doing research on an old problem UNC has been working on for many years. Apparently oil is used to make the drugs we take, he is working on a way to replace the oil with something else that is both cheap and does not affect the purity of the drugs, hoping to one day reduce the World's dependance on oil. He WAS successful, but it was only a small step in the process that many others are working on too. He has now gotten a job with BASF and is moving on to other research with them. His focus was Organo-Metallic chemicals, I have no idea what that means or entails, he is waaaay beyond me and my high school chemistry class!!

VINA is explained, sort of, here: http://vina.scripps.edu/
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Re: How many researchers are aware of WCG?

Thanks both for your replies. I guess the best we can do as crunchers is just keep crunching. Getting more results long-term will get more articles into papers (and maybe the odd high-profile thing in the mainstream press or media).
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Re: How many researchers are aware of WCG?

Within the realm of possibles [resource limitations], one of the goals is to launch a couple of new researches/phases every year and support the long haul sciences such as FAAH & HPF2, whilst maintaining and upgrading the backend so that growth in processed volume is not becoming an insurmountable restriction.

And yes, crunch on for a better tomorrow.

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Re: How many researchers are aware of WCG?

Here is my own experience.

I graduated from and live very close to a huge research based university. The Dean of the Honors College for undergrads is my neighbor. I told her about WCG, and other BOINC projects, how good an institution looks if they have at least one project. She asked me to write a proposal that she could then send around to the heads of various scientific departments.

I put together a very complex detailed description of all of the WCG projects, and many of the other projects running on BOINC software. I used material from the projects' web sites. I made sure that the university or other institution(s) where the project were based was quite clear. I included links and graphics. I made it modular so that she could send just what she wanted to whomever she wanted. I gave it to her in print form, in sections, but also in electronic form for dispersing the sections.

I did a lot of work and nothing came out of it. When I asked here what had happened, she said that she had sent sections to Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Astronomy, etc. Not one department took any interest.

I was especially surprised about Physics and Astronomy. My university has a significant team in an LHC collaboration, and participates in Astronomy with the European Southern Observatory's organization in Germany and Chile.

I would suggest that anyone who has any connection to any university which might prove fruitful should try and make some kind of contact or connection. I live also near to an institution where a WCG project now ended was based. Another neighbor worked in the project. I donated to them some much needed computer equipment that was excess to my needs. I recommend this kind of contact also. No project, no matter how well funded, needs to spend money on something they need that you have and do not need.
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Re: How many researchers are aware of WCG?

Thanks both for your replies. I guess the best we can do as crunchers is just keep crunching. Getting more results long-term will get more articles into papers (and maybe the odd high-profile thing in the mainstream press or media).


I forgot one thing...GPUGrid@home has a link to articles published using the results of YOUR workunits, this is mine:
Contribution to scientific publications
2009th/3113 Giorgino et al, J. Chem. Theory Comput, 2012 cancer

Some people have LOTS, I just got my first a couple of weeks ago. If you click here http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=2776#23914 you will see their forum and the little icons on the left under Scientific Publications is a link to each one.
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