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Michael2901
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Getting around Memory Restrictions

I have an old PC at home doing nothing at all. It has 96 MB of RAM available. I'd like to see if it could assist with the Say no to Schistosoma project but the 100 MB RAM restrictions prevents it downloading any jobs. Is there a way to get around this?
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Re: Getting around Memory Restrictions

Install more RAM? kidding.

What is the cpu speed? I would guess since the computer has 96 mb RAM, the CPU speed is probably less than 500 mhz single core, which makes it not such a good candidate for crunching in this day and age. Just my opinion
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What OS can it even run with that little amount of ram? confused
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Re: Getting around Memory Restrictions

As far as I know, there is no way to get around the RAM restrictions. I haven't checked the minimum requirements of the other projects but I would suggest HCC or C4CW as the most appropriate on a system of that age.

Brinktastee: Guess you never had a computer with KB of RAM. Even Win 95 will run on 4MB. Finding a workable OS isn't the issue.
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Re: Getting around Memory Restrictions

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The System Requirements are listed at https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=minimumreq
Research Project Memory Available Disk Space Operating Systems
Say No to Schistosoma 100 MB 50 MB Windows1, Mac2, Linux3
GO Fight Against Malaria 250 MB 50 MB Windows1, Mac2, Linux3
Drug Search for Leishmaniasis 250 MB 50 MB Windows1, Mac2, Linux3
Computing for Clean Water 400 MB 100 MB Windows1,5, Mac, Linux3,5
The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2 1,024 MB 2,048 MB Windows1, Mac, Linux3,4
Discovering Dengue Drugs - Together - Phase 2 1,024 MB 250 MB Windows1, Mac, Linux3
Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy - Phase 2 64 MB 50 MB Windows1, Mac2, Linux3
Help Fight Childhood Cancer 250 MB 100 MB Windows1, Mac, Linux3
Help Conquer Cancer 250 MB 50 MB Windows1, Mac, Linux3
Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2 250 MB 100 MB Windows1, Mac2, Linux3
FightAIDS@Home 250 MB 100 MB Windows1, Mac, Linux3

1. World Community Grid supports the following Windows platforms: Windows XP, Vista, 7, Server 2003, Server 2008
2. For these projects, only Mac computers using Intel processors are supported
3. Only Linux on x86 and x86-64 is supported
4. Users who choose to run this project are encouraged to set the 'Leave applications in memory while suspended' option in their device profile
5. 64 bit application available

As you can see, the WCG staff really try to determine minimum requirements. Only HCMD2 (which is ending) is listed as running on such a small machine. If we send work to a machine that will crash 1 time out of 10, we are doing nobody any favors. At the least, the staff or the scientists will waste time worrying about inexplicable errors.

Sorry.
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Re: Getting around Memory Restrictions

As far as I know, there is no way to get around the RAM restrictions. I haven't checked the minimum requirements of the other projects but I would suggest HCC or C4CW as the most appropriate on a system of that age.

Brinktastee: Guess you never had a computer with KB of RAM. Even Win 95 will run on 4MB. Finding a workable OS isn't the issue.

I've had computers with a few hundred K of ram. That's not the point. You are not going to be supported running anything less than XP here at WCG. Go and try running that with 90 Meg of ram.
Oh yeah, 95 ran horrible on 4 Meg of ram. It ran horrible no matter how much ram you had. It was garbage.
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Re: Getting around Memory Restrictions

Using such a computer would be a waste of power, in my opinion.

Just in Australia, I can see a second hand core 2 duo box with Vista and 1GB of ram for $80 on eBay, and I understand US computer prices are much cheaper yet.

If you have any spare cash I suggest looking around the charity shops or pawn brokers or Amazon for a working cheap used model that can actually do the job, sad though it is to have to trash working equipment.
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Re: Getting around Memory Restrictions

As far as I know, there is no way to get around the RAM restrictions. I haven't checked the minimum requirements of the other projects but I would suggest HCC or C4CW as the most appropriate on a system of that age.

Brinktastee: Guess you never had a computer with KB of RAM. Even Win 95 will run on 4MB. Finding a workable OS isn't the issue.

I've had computers with a few hundred K of ram. That's not the point. You are not going to be supported running anything less than XP here at WCG. Go and try running that with 90 Meg of ram.
Oh yeah, 95 ran horrible on 4 Meg of ram. It ran horrible no matter how much ram you had. It was garbage.


I agree with brink. The machine is probably a PII or PIII. You can find an OS to run on it, but I would not bother. It will use way more power per work unit done than is worth it. Your thoughts are noble, but find something with a little more oomph.

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Re: Getting around Memory Restrictions

Its my oldest machine and used to run Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy. It runs Windows Millennium, but apart from its age its in perfect working order. I hesitated to throw it out in case it ended up in a landfill or something like that as I feel improper recycling of old PC's can damage the environment.

It looks like with the end of the Help Cure Muscular Dystrophy project its use to the WCC ended as well.

Thanks for the feedback.
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It should still be good for something like word processing or light web browsing even if it is not good for grid computing. Perhaps you could donate it to someone or someplace which could still make use of it.

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