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jasal1978
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Hello All, Looking at either buying a system or building one only for WCG crunching in the near future.... I have been looking around and have a couple of questions as to what would make the best system for something like this. Not wanting to spend TOO much. Around 1,000 would be ideal for now. Would like to maybe even look into the idea of a "Dual Socket Motherboard". What is this new idea that everyone keeps commenting on GPU... How does it work? Thanks
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Sandy bridge cpu's are the best value for building a system. Allot cheaper to build than buy. Ivy bridge processors are even better. If your thinking dual processors, xeon for intel or opteron for AMD. Xeons aren't cheap, but strong processors for 24/7. Never owned AMD so someone else will have to chime in on those. You could get a dual socket board and fill one for now, then add the second one later to keep your initial cost down. My main rig is a dual socket xeon westmere system. My other rig has one xeon now and an empty socket. Saving up for the other one.
----------------------------------------As for GPU, basically crunch with the GPU instead of the CPU. Allot stronger and faster to crunch with the GPU.
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KWSN - A Shrubbery
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I have a dual dual-core Opteron and it is bulletproof, probably approaching 5 years old. You do pay more for server quality boards and chips so it's difficult to justify not just getting separate systems unless space or power consumption is a limiting factor. In that case, you'll want the high efficiency chips and expect to pay even more for those.
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Former Member
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For 1000 I wouldn't mess with servers myself. That being said...
----------------------------------------i7 2600k CPU 8 GB of RAM (if you plan to crunch CEP2) GPU: For WCG, no one knows yet, but you could get gtx 570 or ati comparable GPU, since it appears WCG will be supporting both types. However, since these are very expensive, I would wait until WCG betas begin coming thru, and keeping an eye on the forums. I'm sure it will be a VERY hot topic. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 5, 2012 2:03:39 AM] |
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rewood1000
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I'm with jasal1978 in that when WCG goes with GPU I will probably do the same in getting a unit that will be dedicated to WCG GPU processing. I will be checking out the forums for advice, but not being that computer literate I will hope that some one, when the CPU s get going, will lay out a simple yet really good cruncher in the CPU area. It will be interesting to see what happens this week.
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Richard Mitnick
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I would love to reply here, but I just spent a ton of money on a new system and you do not want to do that.
----------------------------------------But, to learn about GPU crunching, you really need to go to the BOINC web site, the BOINC WIKI. For projects running BOINC that are not at WCG, and there are many of them (check the listing at BOINCstats) GPU crunching is a big deal for a number of them like GPUGrid, Milky Way, etc. GPU crunching is not here at WCG yet. Maybe soon at the Cancer project. But soon might mean two years. So, unless you are doing work beyond WCG, you need not commit yourself today to any graphics card. But, if you are doing other work, then it is definitely something to consider. |
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Former Member
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I would love to reply here, but I just spent a ton of money on a new system and you do not want to do that. But, to learn about GPU crunching, you really need to go to the BOINC web site, the BOINC WIKI. For projects running BOINC that are not at WCG, and there are many of them (check the listing at BOINCstats) GPU crunching is a big deal for a number of them like GPUGrid, Milky Way, etc. GPU crunching is not here at WCG yet. Maybe soon at the Cancer project. But soon might mean two years. So, unless you are doing work beyond WCG, you need not commit yourself today to any graphics card. But, if you are doing other work, then it is definitely something to consider. Emphasis mine, 2 Years ago that would have had credence ;>) --//-- |
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mikey
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I would love to reply here, but I just spent a ton of money on a new system and you do not want to do that. But, to learn about GPU crunching, you really need to go to the BOINC web site, the BOINC WIKI. For projects running BOINC that are not at WCG, and there are many of them (check the listing at BOINCstats) GPU crunching is a big deal for a number of them like GPUGrid, Milky Way, etc. GPU crunching is not here at WCG yet. Maybe soon at the Cancer project. But soon might mean two years. So, unless you are doing work beyond WCG, you need not commit yourself today to any graphics card. But, if you are doing other work, then it is definitely something to consider. Emphasis mine, 2 Years ago that would have had credence ;>) --//-- Yes we are ALL hoping for it to be a bit sooner than that!! I am now in the top 100 overall in Boinc, thanks to my gpu's, and other than a few hiccups in the coming days should stay there for the foreseeable future. Switching a few of those over to WCG would be a nice change.   |
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nanoprobe
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For 1000 I wouldn't mess with servers myself. That being said... i7 2600k CPU 8 GB of RAM (if you plan to crunch CEP2) GPU: For WCG, no one knows yet, but you could get gtx 570 or ati comparable GPU, since it appears WCG will be supporting both types. However, since these are very expensive, I would wait until WCG betas begin coming thru, and keeping an eye on the forums. I'm sure it will be a VERY hot topic. IMHO you don't need the latest and greatest GPU to crunch. I would suggest that when your ready look for a GPU that is 2 generations behind the newest to learn the ropes. They are much cheaper and you could buy 2 or 3 of them for the price of the latest edition. That way you can select projects that are GPU specific (ATI or Nvidia) and have one of each card. I would also wait for Intel to release Ivy bridge. I have 2600k CPUs and they are awesome but I think IB will be even better, especially when it comes to power consumption and overclocking.
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Former Member
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nanoprobe... I agree with you on Ivy Bridge. I too am waiting to build another rig when they arrive (kepler too). Unfortunately, the word from Intel is that Ivy has gotten pushed back AT LEAST until May.
Didn't know if jasal1978 could wait that long., but yes multi-gpu (older) would be better performance/price. However energy consumption matters much more with GPU vs. CPU IMHO. Drawing 300+W 24/7 on one card is no joke. i am looking forward to it though |
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