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jasal1978
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I'm looking at buying another computer sometime in the near future. And I'm wondering which would be a great buy for me to really get some more points and time. Right now my rank is at 56,000. really low. Any help would be great. Thanks.
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Former Member
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Hi there and welcome to the forums:
Please browse the Chat Room and BOINC Support forums. There are many prior discussions on the same request. The very first question is: What is your budget and what level of technical expertise do you have [v.v. self builds]. Just got a [brand] 8 threaded machine [retail] at a steal price, using 79 watts hour when running at 2800 MHz and 60 watts when stock 2200 Mhz. It could even do 3100 Mhz, but the power consumption and temperature rise exponentially when doing so... it usually trundles at 2500-2600 during the day and 2800 during the night, in the cold room [the Hrz are atuo-regulated]. To me, for sure the Intel I5-I7 2xxx series such as the I7-2600 is the present choice CPU. The version I have has a measured 42 Watts/Hour CPU consumption, with a max of 45 [TDP is the given term in the Core-Temp tool]. Power is expensive here, so with that procurement, retired a 2 threaded 85 watts using machine and do about 5-6 times more production with the new. With that, the total TeraFLOPS contributed to WCG has nearly doubled [see my sig]. Imminently my 5+ years old Q6600 will also be replaced [using 170 Watts hour], by a second 8 threaded machine, to co-act as file server. The combined power saving will be the payback within the next 3 years, live expectancy 5-6 years, at 24/7 crunching. Much lower wattage is much lower heat generation and much greener at that, no matter how the power was generated. --//-- |
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mikey
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I'm looking at buying another computer sometime in the near future. And I'm wondering which would be a great buy for me to really get some more points and time. Right now my rank is at 56,000. really low. Any help would be great. Thanks. If you can build your own pc it will be much cheaper of course...I just built an AMD X6 based machine for $400US worth of parts, that includes the cpu, motherboard and memory. That did NOT count the hard drive, power supply, graphics card or the dvd/rw...I replaced an older dual core pc so just transferred those parts over to the new pc. My old dual core was putting about 240 to 280 watts, it fluctuated constantly, while the new pc is putting out 320 watts. I will ALSO be retiring another dual core pc shortly so there will be a net lowering of my electric bill. In addition I also just purchased a 2nd set of parts to build another pc to replace two more dual core pc's. The new X6 machines have multiple slots for graphics cards so I am not losing anything there, which is my main concern right now. The original X6 is a 1090T while the newer one is a newer Bulldozer style. I will be taking four dual core pc's off line and replacing them with two 6 core machines, increasing my crunching power and using less electricity to do it! The short version is look for the newer type cpu's as they use less electricity than the older models and in the end spending money on electricity will be the downfall of your crunching abilities! I am spending just over $500US PER MONTH on electricity alone!! I do have an all electric home, so some of that is just living, but it is just the wife and I now so that is less than half of the total bill. ![]() ![]() |
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Hardnews
Senior Cruncher England Joined: Oct 11, 2008 Post Count: 151 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
What they said:
Plus I built three machines in December for Crunching: The current cpu chips are up to 10 times better than five or so years ago. Short form: build something you can run 24/7, heat and juice bills permitting. I use Intel, Other CPU's are available: i3/2100 CPU : dual core plus hyperthreading, very good, not overclockable. Cheap, fast and not power hungry. i5/2500K quad core, no hyperthreading. Goes like a train and stays cool. Can be overclocked. mid price, faster than the i3 when crunching. i7/ 2600K, quad core plus hyperthreading. Extremely fast, and not cheap. Can be overclocked for more heat, and more points. Also, what you can do with speed settings depends on the motherboard, the cheap Intel ones work, but something like a board from Asus or Gigabyte gives more speed options. Spend money on cooling. Running an i5 at stock speeds 24/7 gave 6700 credit per day in BOINC stats. Unbeatable at the price, I think. Stats for the i7 aren't in yet. |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Like SekeRob said first tell us your budget. How much are you ready to spend. Then we can try to maximise the hardware performance according to that budget. And also it is important to know if your rig will be devoted exclusively to crunch for WCG 24/7 or if it is a machine for your personal use and additionally for WCG. This does impact the configuration.
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Bearcat
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To help keep the price down, use Linux. Ubuntu is pretty simple but there are other versions out there. They are free to use. Plenty of folks to assist you to get started if you go this route. Try to get a quad with hyperthreading (8 threads). For a real nice machine, buy a dual socket motherboard. Start with one processor. Then save up for the second processor. This is provided you build it, or have a friend build it for you. A heck of allot cheaper if it's home built.
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Hardnews
Senior Cruncher England Joined: Oct 11, 2008 Post Count: 151 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
.. and there are also the current threads on spending the cash on graphics cards instead of CPU's for when WCG starts to crunch on graphics processors. Me, I built mid-price single CPU boxes, and will wait to add WCG compat GPUs. What else can we do?
I agree with Ubuntu/Linux for dedicated crunch boxes. Runs like a train here. |
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Former Member
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Dual boot it will shortly be on the new 8 threaded. Make your choice of Linux easy: http://www.ghacks.net/2012/01/04/download-lin...r-desktop-with-get-linux/
----------------------------------------[CEP2 crunch under W7-64 is superior [in efficiency] to that under Linux [on any hardware that I have] --//-- edit: insert [in efficiency] [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jan 13, 2012 10:34:35 AM] |
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mikey
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To help keep the price down, use Linux. Ubuntu is pretty simple but there are other versions out there. They are free to use. Plenty of folks to assist you to get started if you go this route. Try to get a quad with hyperthreading (8 threads). For a real nice machine, buy a dual socket motherboard. Start with one processor. Then save up for the second processor. This is provided you build it, or have a friend build it for you. A heck of allot cheaper if it's home built. I also agree with the Linux OS route, I use Win7 now but that is for different reasons, in the past I tried Linux and created a whole thread on another Project about my experiences, I can give you the link if you'd like. But in the beginning I knew pc but NOT Linux at all!!! I STILL don't know Linux but can now get a pc up and crunching pretty quickly and since Linux is free, most of them are free but NOT all Linux versions are free, it is cheap. Linux people are very eager to help and can dumb it down to the newest newbie with no problem, and Ubuntu Linux is VERY easy to use!!! It is enough like Windows to make you fairly comfortable and after clicking around a little bit you will find most things. IF you have the time a 'live cd' is a good idea to try. A 'live cd' is a load of the OS WITHOUT actually loading it onto your pc, meaning you run Linux off of a cd and then reboot to your regular OS with no problem when you are done playing, giving you a chance to check it out if you'd like. Just FYI there ARE 'live' Windows cd's too, they are just MUCH harder to find. MOST Linux versions offer the 'live cd' option as part of the installation options, you can either do a full install or do a 'live cd' instead. ![]() ![]() |
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Hardnews
Senior Cruncher England Joined: Oct 11, 2008 Post Count: 151 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The note about W7 being faster than Linux ( or Brand X) is interesting. I don't have any answers as both my boxes (one of each ) have different CPUs. My attraction to UBU is its cost (£0), its low memory requirement, and its snappy front end.
It's nice to have the choice. I use W7 most of the day, while the Ubu box saves the planet from people like me. |
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