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Re: Cure Cancer - is this real?

Cancer treatment is no easy fix.
I volunteered for a long-running mega scale clinical trial
- no easy decision at the time
Five years of medicine double blind cross over
- four lines
- one was stopped prematurely because the results showed significantly poorer results than the other three
- I was lucky
- I could sense what I got, and my combination turned out to be the very best of the remaining three trial results
- two years of Tamoxifene followed by three years of Femar, I think it was

What worried me was that I could not have a second round of radiation therapy just in case ......
- maybe long running research and trials have improved on the knowledge about that as well

You are right densnaps:
Early Detection Is Paramount
Watch out yourself - watch yourself - inform yourself of the symptoms

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My point is not that the acid would be an easy cure, my point is that with the characteristic it shows, it deserve more research opportunity, and not shun out just because it can't be patent-able.

It's like the story of someone dropped a coin in the dark, and yet looked around under a street light because it's easier there.

The solution might be there, but people too busy looking for something that can be patented.

I agree more research need to be done on this thing, but to keep it away in the closet just because un-patent-able is just sad.

What if this is the key ingredient?
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I'm sorry for flying off the hook instead of trying to understand what you want to convey, fablefox.
I apologize for that.

Of course, all possibilities deserve to be explored - and this could be the magic bullet. As could anything else ...
I certainly cross my fingers that something comes of it, but I don't believe in it.
But in all fairness, I looked around for sources I would trust:

On May 31, 2011, a research professor with the Danish Cancer Society said
in response to a question about DCA and the publicity it gets :
"... there may be something to it. DCA restricts the mechanism cancer cells use for providing energy.
.... The trial was carried out on five patients with brain cancer
with the single purpose of mapping a series of biochemical parameters
- not for finding out whether the patients benefitted from the drug seen from a clinical point of view.
The trial showed that cancer cells' metabolism can be influenced in the desired way by DCA.
Whether the drug can be used for cancer treatment, must be shown by future clinical trials."


It's a popular concept to blame "Big Pharma". But if "Big Pharma" believed DCA worked and
that they could make a profit from this drug, I'm sure they could find a way to patent it.
And that's not all bad as I see it.

What makes me upset is that desparate cancer patients on a daily basis
are made to believe in shark cartilage, misteltoe and what have you
- so I get unjustifiably distrusting at each claim for cures I meet.

That, however, does not justify a less than kind response to you, fablefox,
and I apologize for that once more.

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Anything ''foreign'' we introduce to the body and what quantity and what mix with other ''foreign'' chemicals and what duration has an [initial] effect... the system ''learns'' and then uses or rejects and when really backfiring, with auto-immune reactions... the defense systems attacking itself eventually [I'm one having this, but alive and kicking, nearly entirely "no trace" on homeopatics developed with a multi- disciplinary Dr./Herba-Pharmacologist]. Big Pharma in Europe lobbied hard to get many compounds and mixes removed from the self-medicate list, kicked/kicks in this year, so been stockpiling... and alternate sources will surely not evaporate. Europe is not the world either.

I'm pretty sure this specific miracle acid or something akin was posted on our forums before, but it then had such a ''spam'' type about it of ''first post'' that it was duly removed by the admins.

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Actually this is a reverse GPL open source. While I'm not a lawyer, it something like this: Nobody want to code it, but everybody want to link to it and compile it - freely.

When something is un-patent-able, an American company can spent $500 million on it, publish a research paper, and a Chinese company can come up with the pills tomorrow, and that particular American company will have a hard time recouping that $500 million back.

The irony is that IP owner (specially in the software) always fight for source patent or something because they say "unpatent able - or copyright able thing stifle creativity".

This is the nice (or sad) example of it. Nobody want to put money into this - because they know competition can use the result freely, but at the same time, since anyone can produce the pills, is waiting the the result.
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The good thing is, there are people that into this kind of open source drug thing:

http://www.osdd.net/

Open Source Drug Discovery.
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Now, that is interesting with people taking matters in their own hands
- like Linux

Finally, I begin to catch on, fablefox
blushing - it took a while for this old lady with an inflexible way of thinking ...
- sorry about that

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Thanks for the laugh..

Being a cancer survivor myself. 1 year in remission

I would like to say there are tons of people claiming the cure for everything has been found

In 2010 there were 1,529,560 new cases of cancer with 569,490 deaths that were cancer linked to death
Globally in 2007 (latest report i could find for global) 11,298,277 new cases of cancer with 7,627,761 deaths that were linked to cancer.

there are more than 60 MAJOR different types of cancer and tons more of sub cancers

For instance in the thyroid there is Follicular, Papillary, Medullary, and Anplastic.

there are B-raf mutations and Radiation resistant forms of these there are combinations of these categories but they are all lumped into thyroid cancer.

I am sure each type and sub type of cancer is the same.

Again being a cancer survivor I had both follicular and papillary cancer in my thyroid (still waiting to find out if either was B-RAF mutation)

There is NO one magic bullet that will work for CANCER.

Most of us take our care into our own hands.
I have learned to watch all my lab results for trends, I have learned a lot of medical terminology for diseases, I take an active part in my treatment. And I spend at least 20 hours a week on research of thyroid cancer.

There are lots of things people can do to reduce the risk of one type of cancer or another.

If it says it’s a magic bullet I disregard it.
If they make claims in reducing the risk of or reoccurrence of I research it.

Cancer in its entirety is not going to be cured in the near future.

Early Detection is the main key.
Improving longevity and quality of life are other keys.
Educating people and removing things that we KNOW cause cancer is a key.
Do we know what type of cancer was targeted by this study?

@Densnaps – “Eating too many Carrots doesn’t make you able to see in the dark or breed like Rabbits it just turns you yellow” um its actually orange not yellow and there are lots of other side effects too”

Yes open source drug discovery is a good idea.

This project is also a good idea.

My goal in participating in cures for cancer and the like is to increase longevity until a cure can be found for that type of cancer. Once they take out one type of cancer they can work on others.



sorry if i got on a rant here but i hate people makeing money on others misfortune when they dont have a cure
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smile Rants are good, nasher
- and cheap, too

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smile Rants are good, nasher
- and cheap, too

devilish


Nothin' wrong with a rant now and then. I process HCC tasks in the hope this work may lead to more cost-effective cancer treatment. I believe there will never a cure for this cluster of diseases, (ie that we will eradicate cancer). I process other tasks in the hope that suffering will be lessened on earth. The hope may be misplaced, but if I do nothing....etc., etc.

Happy number crunching to all.

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