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Re: Buy new GPU or new computer?

I'll upgrade my GPU the moment it was released. I mean, ohhh, the days and badges :-)
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Re: Buy new GPU or new computer?

Yes, a GPU can be considerably faster and 250 times is not unheard of. Now for a reality check.

This cannot be done in the real world.


That is not correct, it HAS been done, read it agin [url]http://www.biomedcentral.com/1756-0500/4/97[/url]

Or is it a false statement?


I'm going to assume that you simply neglected to quote me in context due to over-zealousness. I would hesitate to accuse someone I don't know of intentional deception simply to win an internet argument.

For completeness, allow me to produce that sentence in it's entirety to show that my point stands as originally stated.

This cannot be done in the real world. It can be accomplished under ideal situations with a single or a few models of GPU.


I never questioned that a GPU can perform at these speeds, I suggested that in the general population of hardware available in a distributed computing setting, this type of performance is impossible. Only a few or even a single card will fit the optimized code. The rest will be considerably slower if they are compatible at all.

My argument was, and remains, that programming for a general release GPU application is far more difficult than it's proponents suggest.


Looks like more than a few to me...

Milkyway@Home requires a GPU supporting Double Precision arithmetic.

NVIDIA:
- Requires Compute Capability 1.3 and Above.
- For the GeForce 2xx series, this is the GTX 260 and above.
- Any Fermi based (GeForce GTX 4xx or 5xx) should support doubles.
- Any older GPUs (such as a GeForce 8xxx or 9xxx) will not work

AMD/ATI:
- The oldest GPUs that work are the ATI HD Radeon 38x0 series.
- In general laptop AMD GPUs do NOT support doubles despite similar branding (e.g. A Mobility Radeon 5870 is not the same as a normal Radeon 5870). Only the Mobility Radeon 48xx are the only current ATI laptop GPUs that have doubles.
- For the Radeon 6000 series, only the 69xx have doubles.


Examples (these lists are not all of the GPUs which should work)
Nvidia:


GeForce GTX 590
GeForce GTX 580
GeForce GTX 570
GeForce GTX 560 Ti
GeForce GTX 560
GeForce GTX 550 Ti
GeForce GT 545
GeForce GTX 480
GeForce GTX 470
GeForce GTX 465
GeForce GTX 460
GeForce GTS 450
GeForce GT 430
Geforce GTX 295
Geforce GTX 285
Geforce GTX 280
Geforce GTX 275 (credits to Bruce)
Geforce GTX 260
Tesla S1070
Tesla C1060
Tesla M2090
Tesla M2070
Tesla M2050
Tesla S2050
Quadro Plex 2200 D2
Quadro FX 5800
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 5000s, 5000s, 4000s
(Based on GT200 GPU)



AMD/ATI:


AMD Radeon 6990
AMD Radeon 6970
AMD Radeon 6950
ATI HD Radeon 5970 (credits to kashi)
ATI HD Radeon 5870
ATI HD Radeon 5850
ATI HD Radeon 5830
ATI HD Radeon 4890
ATI HD Radeon 4870
ATI HD Radeon 4850
ATI HD Radeon 4830
ATI HD Radeon 4770
ATI HD Radeon 4830
ATI HD Radeon 38x0
(credits to cenit for the AMD documentation describing the products above)
ATI Firestream 9270
ATI Firestream 9250
ATI Firestream 9170
(credits to Cluster Physik)



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