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Inconclusives and invalids

I'm getting one cruncher that is turning a lot of inconclusives and invalids. The WUs start, get to 65-70% and restart, somethimes twice. Here is what the log says about the restart.

invalid
Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcg_c4cw_lmps_6.41_windows_x86_64
-screen none -in in.wcg.acc -var wcgsteps1 10000 -var wcgsteps2
10000 -var loop 0 -var restart 0 -var rinterval 100 -var ifile in.wcg.acc -var wcgseed 30696201

inconclusive
Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcg_c4cw_lmps_6.41_windows_x86_64
-screen none -in in.wcg.acc -var wcgsteps1 10000 -var wcgsteps2
6401 -var loop 2 -var restart 1 -var rinterval 100 -var ifile in.wcg.acc -var wcgseed 30733777

Both errors look the same except for the number at the end. What's going on?
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Re: Inconclusives and invalids

See no difference of relevance with a valid result:

<stderr_txt>
Commandline = ../../projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcg_c4cw_lmps_6.41_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu -screen none -in in.wcg.acc -var wcgsteps1 10000 -var wcgsteps2 10000 -var loop 0 -var restart 0 -var rinterval 100 -var ifile in.wcg.acc -var wcgseed 24952357

Are those that pass through the Inconclusive state ever get into a Valid after the wingman has returned?

Probably you'd want to set some additional log flags in the client cc_config.xml http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Cc_config.xml so it will print out more around the times when the results restart.. [review stdoutdae.txt for anomalies during those restarts]. Those restarts can create enough of a small variation not to render them valid... tight tolerances in order to be able to run zero redundancy.

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edit: flags to set:

<task_debug>
<mem_usage_debug>
<cpu_sched>
<app_msg_receive>
<app_msg_send>

It's not the first time reported that restarted tasks for CFCW don't check and go invalid, so we like to find why/when they restart.

Maybe the techs can inject if I missed any relevant flags to further a debug.
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Re: Inconclusives and invalids

If it is only specific to one machine, I would look at a hardware issue. I have a couple of suggestions. First, shut down the machine fully and do a cold start. this will make sure all memory and registers are reset to zero. Second, I would look at heating issues - dust in the heat sinks or defective fans/inadequate air flow. I only mention these because I have had these items happen on long running systems. Good luck.

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Re: Inconclusives and invalids

Are those that pass through the Inconclusive state ever get into a Valid after the wingman has returned?

What's the best way to determine that?
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Re: Inconclusives and invalids

Are those that pass through the Inconclusive state ever get into a Valid after the wingman has returned?

What's the best way to determine that?


Check under result status. Most of the inconclusives will turn valid eventually.

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