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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 3010 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hypernova, the total number of projects (currently 18), only includes the "Production" sciences - as such, Beta isn't included in the count - although, any 'run-time' you've contributed for that pre-launch work, is. Also, to be classed as a "Guru", you've got to have at least reached a Bronze badge for Beta - as, that illustrates that you're committed to WCG.
----------------------------------------As to slipping back when a new project is launched, again I think SNURK has this right - as it includes that element of continuous contribution (i.e., when the last project was launched, I 'lost' my Guru status, as I hadn't, at the time, contributed anything to the new project).  |
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mclaver
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Post Count: 566 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hypernova, the calculation is done by dividing your total run time by the total number of WCG projects. I think its up to 18 total projects so you would be at about 6.9 years = 125 years total / 18. Anhhai, on a long enough time frame you should get to about 3rd. 4th should be much easier. Your averaging something like 170d every day, i'm at about 215d, mclaver is about 150, and kermit just has a massive lead even if he returns no results for a huge amount of time. Rammie has been at this a long stead time but your gaining about 40d per day on him, you will catch up to mclaver first and pass him at the current rate. And theres always the unknowns out there... or Hypernova, waiting to powerback up 100%  I did not even realize I was in this contest until I stumbled upon this thread! I am a long way away from X-Sapphire even if they do not add any more projects. It looks like you will pass me before I ever catch up to Rammie. The only thing that might change the game is if WCG ever supports GPU processing. I currently average 827,736 BOINC points per day, and only 69,712 WCG pooints a day. All of my computers are home built in my home and all of my CPUs are dedicated to WCG. If WCG supports GPUs, I will shift all of my GPUs to WCG, increasing my WCG processing by a factor of 12 if the GPU points are equivalent. Then X-Sapphire will be in my sights!    |
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SNURK
Veteran Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Nov 26, 2007 Post Count: 1217 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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All of my computers are home built in my home and all of my CPUs are dedicated to WCG. If WCG supports GPUs, I will shift all of my GPUs to WCG, increasing my WCG processing by a factor of 12 if the GPU points are equivalent. Then X-Sapphire will be in my sights! Not entirely. Sure the points will take off by a factor xx once GPU is supported, but globes, like badges, are based on run time. In that respect GPU's will go 'only' as fast as CPU's. So you will gain speed by adding GPU's, but not by a factor 12. Edit: Come to think of it, does a GPU have more than one core? and if so, how many, typically? ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by SNURK at Oct 6, 2011 10:13:55 AM] |
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Former Member
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Come to think of it, does a GPU have more than one core? and if so, how many, typically? A GPU has from a few dozen "cores" upwards - up to about 500 cores for nVidia (GTX 580) and about 1600 cores for AMD (HD 5870), twice that number for the dual cards. But GPU cores are vastly simpler than CPU cores, so they are not comparable. (That's how GPUs get to be so powerful for "embarrassingly parallell" problems - they use lots of tiny cores instead of a few big ones.) But those hundreds of cores can typically compute only one problem at a time (except for dual cards like GTX 590/HD 6990 that can handle two, one per card), so for the purposes of runtime it makes most sense to count it as one (for single cards) or two (for dual cards). |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Also, to be classed as a "Guru", you've got to have at least reached a Bronze badge for Beta - as, that illustrates that you're committed to WCG. gb009761 could you please explain what is the "Guru" thing. I do not see it anywhere on the signature.  |
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mclaver
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Post Count: 566 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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All of my computers are home built in my home and all of my CPUs are dedicated to WCG. If WCG supports GPUs, I will shift all of my GPUs to WCG, increasing my WCG processing by a factor of 12 if the GPU points are equivalent. Then X-Sapphire will be in my sights! Not entirely. Sure the points will take off by a factor xx once GPU is supported, but globes, like badges, are based on run time. In that respect GPU's will go 'only' as fast as CPU's. So you will gain speed by adding GPU's, but not by a factor 12. Edit: Come to think of it, does a GPU have more than one core? and if so, how many, typically? I thought BOINC points based on CPU Time? Wouldn't a higher point value, imply a higher run time? It will be interesting to see how WCG will calculate run time for GPUs. All of my GPUs are NVIDIA and my fastest is a GTX 480 which has 480 "processor cores". I am not sure how that would compare to a "CPU core" |
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gb009761
Master Cruncher Scotland Joined: Apr 6, 2005 Post Count: 3010 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hypernova, the little symbol just to the left of the member name, indicates one of four things;
----------------------------------------Bronze = Junior (first year member), Silver = Solid cruncher (anything between 1 year and 6 years), Gold = Senior (6+ years since registering), and Crown = Guru (Senior & 90+% science badges - which has to include the beta of any colour). Thus, just at the moment, to be a Guru, you've got to have either 18 or 19 badges and been registered since the 6th of October 2005. Needless to say, there are very few Guru's in SNURK's Signature Rankings |
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anhhai
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Mar 22, 2005 Post Count: 839 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Mclaver, while true more runtime does increase points, it doesn't mean more points mean more runtime. This is because some people have newer/faster CPUs then others. Example, below are the results from yesterday. As, you can see while you and I have about the same amount of points, I have a lot more runtime, meaning I have slower CPUs then you. Or it could just mean I use Intel's hyper-threading mode and you don't
----------------------------------------trn-XS 0:218:16:22:44 867,771 WCG pts anhhai 0:170:17:16:57 591,087 WCG pts mclaver 0:128:09:26:29 537,059 WCG pts Hypernova 0:124:10:33:33 494,057 WCG pts RAMMIE 0:096:08:23:24 384,190 WCG pts P.S. It looks like Hypernova is revving up his systems.  |
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thanks gb009761 for the info and link.
----------------------------------------Excellent work SNURK. Your signature does indeed in a very compact way include a lot of info. Why not change colours for the globes. Isn't it a little boring to have three times Sapphire.  After Sapphire, you could have DIAMOND globe and then the GOLDEN PEARL globe to go out of gemstones in a different world. |
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mclaver
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Post Count: 566 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Mclaver, while true more runtime does increase points, it doesn't mean more points mean more runtime. This is because some people have newer/faster CPUs then others. Example, below are the results from yesterday. As, you can see while you and I have about the same amount of points, I have a lot more runtime, meaning I have slower CPUs then you. Or it could just mean I use Intel's hyper-threading mode and you don't trn-XS 0:218:16:22:44 867,771 WCG pts anhhai 0:170:17:16:57 591,087 WCG pts mclaver 0:128:09:26:29 537,059 WCG pts Hypernova 0:124:10:33:33 494,057 WCG pts RAMMIE 0:096:08:23:24 384,190 WCG pts P.S. It looks like Hypernova is revving up his systems. I also use Hyper-threading on my Intel machines. I do have some pretty fast machines, my fastest are I7 990, I7 980, I7 975, I7 965, 2600k, AMD 1100 and two AMD 1090s. Is run time tracked anywhere for GPUs ? I have 22 machines with a mix of AMD and Intel. What I am interested in is how would GPUs impact WCG runtime and points. I have a significant amount of GPU power as you can see from my other credits. All of my CPUs are dedicated to WCG, all of my GPUs are for GPUGRID, Collatz, Milkey Way and SETI. If WCG ever supported GPU processing I would move all my GPUs to WCG. Then I might have enough power to achieve X-Saphire :) Mrkermit has 161,681,844 Boinc points and I have 286,057,557 Boinc points, but all of his is WCG and 85% of my points are GPU points to other projects. |
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