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Thread: CEP Phase 2 progress resets everytime BOINC mgr is restarted? |
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Former Member
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Wiyosaya, ...As for hibernating, I'm used to just close the lid on the laptop. Some prefer to snooze/pause BOINC first, ... cheers I have my computer set up via the Power Options Properties and the Advanced tab to do nothing when I close the lid of the laptop. I want the laptop to run 24x7 and not to hibernate when I close the lid. |
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Sekerob
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What you do for some brands of laptop could lead to heat building up under the lid and certainly needing the fans to work harder, so at least leave it somewhat ajar for that to escape. Yonder days, closed lid, stuck it in a bag and it came out kind of toasty... lucked out :D
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I have my computer set up via the Power Options Properties and the Advanced tab to do nothing when I close the lid of the laptop. I want the laptop to run 24x7 and not to hibernate when I close the lid. Yeah, I do this as well - mainly just so I can carry the thing in one hand, but if you close the lid and it goes into hibernation, it still uses some power, so leave an old-ish laptop unplugged and in hibernation for a few days and when you come back to it you have to freeze boot; recover it. At least when it's on you can hear the fan. Wouldn't recommend leaving it on and putting it in a bag though  |
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What you do for some brands of laptop could lead to heat building up under the lid and certainly needing the fans to work harder, so at least leave it somewhat ajar for that to escape. Yonder days, closed lid, stuck it in a bag and it came out kind of toasty... lucked out :D I do not have a problem with heat building up when the lid is closed as I have a Belkin platform with a fan that I use when the lid is shut. I know there are other suppliers that provide a product to do the same. |
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Wiyosaya
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Wiyosaya, can you post the result log for one of your results that went back to zero. Thanks, armstrdj I finally have a result status for a CEP2 WU that restarted. Note that this one is one that I also hibernated the machine. It also may be one that restarted in spite of my having hibernated the machine. I hope it is useful... Result Name: E200768_ 484_ A.26.C21H15NS3Si.249.3.set1d06_ 0-- <core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version> <![CDATA[ <stderr_txt> INFO: No state to restore. Start from the beginning. [20:26:16] Number of jobs = 16 [20:26:16] Starting job 0,CPU time has been restored to 0.000000. [20:30:21] Finished Job #0 [20:30:21] Starting job 1,CPU time has been restored to 235.875000. [20:41:42] Finished Job #1 [20:41:42] Starting job 2,CPU time has been restored to 886.343750. Quit requested: Exiting [22:17:22] Number of jobs = 16 [22:17:22] Starting job 2,CPU time has been restored to 886.343750. Quit requested: Exiting [09:02:28] Number of jobs = 16 [09:02:28] Starting job 2,CPU time has been restored to 886.343750. 09:03:02 (2628): No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting No heartbeat: Exiting [09:03:07] Number of jobs = 16 [09:03:07] Starting job 2,CPU time has been restored to 886.343750. [13:49:26] Finished Job #2 [13:49:26] Starting job 3,CPU time has been restored to 17198.437500. [14:02:00] Finished Job #3 [14:02:00] Starting job 4,CPU time has been restored to 17908.781250. [14:10:40] Finished Job #4 [14:10:40] Starting job 5,CPU time has been restored to 18400.156250. [14:19:33] Finished Job #5 [14:19:33] Starting job 6,CPU time has been restored to 18905.703125. [14:28:02] Finished Job #6 [14:28:02] Starting job 7,CPU time has been restored to 19396.171875. [14:42:07] Finished Job #7 [14:42:07] Starting job 8,CPU time has been restored to 20197.953125. [14:50:01] Finished Job #8 [14:50:01] Starting job 9,CPU time has been restored to 20645.531250. [14:58:50] Finished Job #9 [14:58:50] Starting job 10,CPU time has been restored to 21151.125000. [15:26:22] Finished Job #10 [15:26:22] Starting job 11,CPU time has been restored to 22716.281250. [15:38:23] Finished Job #11 [15:38:23] Starting job 12,CPU time has been restored to 23401.093750. [16:54:58] Finished Job #12 [16:54:58] Starting job 13,CPU time has been restored to 27714.812500. [19:19:40] Finished Job #13 [19:19:40] Starting job 14,CPU time has been restored to 35742.656250. Quit requested: Exiting [23:33:30] Number of jobs = 16 [23:33:30] Starting job 14,CPU time has been restored to 35742.656250. Killing job because cpu time has been exceeded. Subjob start time = 0, Subjob current time = 1088517077 [01:41:36] Finished Job #14 01:41:50 (3080): called boinc_finish </stderr_txt> ]]>  |
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Wiyosaya
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As indicated by this thread http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,30561
----------------------------------------I am not the only one who is experiencing this problem. Unfortunately, I think it is a waste of my CPU time at this point, and essentially, I have to run my computers all the time, which is something that I do not do. Therefore, I am unsubscribing from the project.  However, if the people running the project develop a fix for it, I would be happy to crunch for the project again - as it is an area of extreme interest for me. |
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Former Member
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Hello Wiyosaya,
----------------------------------------Yes, it is definitely useful. The first 3 jobs are the most important. The later jobs are less and less important. The last 4 (or maybe 6 jobs) return nice to have info but not very important. Anything that looks interesting in the first few jobs will be rerun using more detailed programs. The project scientists care very little about running all 16 jobs on the selected compound but need the first few job results. Lawrence Added: With the lack of check points, this project is the most demanding. It is not suitable for everyone. I would not run it on a laptop. I am running it on a desktop in my library and even so I set 'No new tasks' for WCG well in advance of rebooting and wait until CEP2 has finished. I find this - - irritating. I am compulsive about computersw. Sigh . . . . [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Dec 24, 2010 10:02:48 PM] |
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Wiyosaya
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Hello Wiyosaya, Yes, it is definitely useful. The first 3 jobs are the most important. The later jobs are less and less important. The last 4 (or maybe 6 jobs) return nice to have info but not very important. Anything that looks interesting in the first few jobs will be rerun using more detailed programs. The project scientists care very little about running all 16 jobs on the selected compound but need the first few job results. Lawrence Added: With the lack of check points, this project is the most demanding. It is not suitable for everyone. I would not run it on a laptop. I am running it on a desktop in my library and even so I set 'No new tasks' for WCG well in advance of rebooting and wait until CEP2 has finished. I find this - - irritating. I am compulsive about computersw. Sigh . . . . What I posted was without restarting boinc. I ran the computer continuously during this period. So why job 1 restarted and reset the cpu time to 0 is a likely indicator of the problem. I program for a living, and I find it extremely frustrating when bugs - yes I will call this a bug - crop up. There seems to be a contingent of project leaders out there throughout the grid computing world who, for various reasons, forget that their tasks are running on donated time. Personally, I like to see every minute of my donated time running a project that is respectful of that time. If there is an attitude of we will get our results back no matter what so who cares about tasks failing on some machines, well, I find that 1. wasteful, 2. disrespectful. But those are my feelings. So, for the time being, I have turned off CEP 2 work units. Were this unique to one of my computers, I would simply shut it off on that one, however, this is happening on at least two of my three computers. Both are running XP64, one has 4 GB of ram with a dual-core Opteron, the other has 1 GB with an Athlon Dual core 4400+. The Opteron is an extremely capable machine, so I doubt it is my hardware, and I would not be surprised - as you indicate - that this happens on other computers out there, too. I do not know whether the project leaders can do anything about this, however, it seems that it would be prudent for them to at least attempt to find a solution especially since it would almost certainly increase the rate of result return for them. So, after my "rant," I'll say I hope someone from the project is working on it. |
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