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nasher
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 2, 2005 Post Count: 1423 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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hopeing you have such success... any estimate.. or guess-timate on when we might see some of the new projects?
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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As with badges, people can argue to the end of time if RAC, credits, world position and the like serve any meaningful purpose in the whole scheme of things but they are reasons why people crunch. Dataman, there is something here about the psychology of crunchers that I have difficulties to understand. My comment is purely subjective and a personal point of view, so it is not any criticisms. Badges, RAC, and ranking etc. all this is fine for me but on a specific project that I have selected where I find worthwhile to spend money and time to contribute, by crunching or other ways. The resulting ranking system comes second but is a way to measure what you do and instill a sense of competition which suits me well. But as I said this comes second to the project goals. If we take boinc globally I cannot make any sense of a clear objective simply because all the various projects being so different, and in my view some of them being completely irrelevant, I have the feeling that crunching for Boinc as a whole just targeting points makes me feel as crunching without any purpose, and wasting energy just for a virtual ranking of points. In short to be first in a specific project that has a given target and objective on a cause I find worthwile, is personally much more rewarding, even if this means to be the last on a completely virtual world ranking of points. To conclude we need everybody who contributes in a way or another. I agree that maybe we should use the point system to attract those crunchers who would not come otherwise.  After all if WCG point system let's say produces more Boinc credits, we may get more crunchers. It will not change anything in the internal WCG point system ranking as it will affect proportionally everybody. We could increase the credit and reduce the coefficient so that in WCG points there would be no difference, but it would improve the Boinc credit results.  |
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nasher
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Dec 2, 2005 Post Count: 1423 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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@ Hypernova to be honest i bet even if they increased the BOINC credits by 5% we would get more crunchers.
----------------------------------------its a personal ego thing why people crunch... or just like watching a football/baseball/hockey...ect game. you rout for a team and the team gets a rank.. but compared with other things dose it really matter. i like to collect badges here its more of what I have done for the projects and something i can compare a tangible how much i have done. I know i cant compete with hypernova or a lot of the BIG BIG crunchers but i can contribute and my little part dose add up (over 10 1/2 cpu years here) for a while i had the concept of crunching a little of everything on BOINC.. i figured that ANY project out there deserved at least a day or 2 of cpu time... since then i have shifted to pretty much WCG as my only project mainly since its scientific and we hear back from the project scientists and can see that we are actually making progress understanding and getting closer to a cure for things and every now and then we hear about improvements in the speed or such of the way these programs work.. so I may not be able to cure cancer myself or find a better way to fight dengue fever but i can spend my cpu time and my electric bill to work for a cure and if anyone talks about donating money to a project i can say i donate to cancer/aids/dengue/flu/natural food production/childhood cancer/muscular dystrophy/clean water... and know that 100% of MY money i donate (by power and cpu usage) goes to working for cures/improvements. I love new projects cause it shows more things we can work on as well as gives me another little thing i can say I have helped work for a cure for. I can talk to my friends and maybe find someone who is interested in the NEW project and get them to crunch that one and who knows once they start crunching maybe they will stay. honestly though this is also a feelgood project. there are so many things I want fixed in the world and in this way I know I have done my part. personally if a build a better battery project came up i would probably swap to that since in the whole scene of non constant flow energy production (solar/wind) if its night or not windy you are generating nothing and current battery technology needs ALOT of work |
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kateiacy
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 23, 2010 Post Count: 1027 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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We are actually in the process of doing some server upgrades. We should finish them off in the next 6 weeks. We are doubling the RAM for our databases (up to 64GB from 32GB) and switching from using NFS for the BOINC data filesystems to GPFS. These changes should give us some very comfortable room for upside growth. Further down the road the db servers are good to grow up to 128GB of RAM in the future and the GPFS filesystem allows us to scale the front end web servers horizontally. In the event of what we call a 'success problem', we can pull in favors and get work done very quickly to handle the increase in load. The biggest metric in terms of load to the infrastructure is the number of results per day. In the event of a sudden and dramatic increase in participation (say 200% growth overnight) we would increase the average runtime of each workunit. We have some projects that we can scale the size of the workunits very easily. In the event that we have sudden growth, we can lengthen those workunits and then give them more weight which slows down the result rate on the grid. This gives us breathing room while we would make server changes to handle the load. It is very exciting to hear about the preparations to handle major growth in WCG projects and crunching! I appreciate your sharing a few of the technical details! I joined WCG in Jan of this year (actually got going in Feb after some technical problems on my end). So my experience has been to see the number of available projects nearly double since I joined. Now we're hearing about 2 more going to start! I don't want to back off from my current projects, but also can't wait to crunch the new ones. So this is terrifically motivating to me to try to expand my tiny little farm, to learn how to make it operate more efficiently, and to spread the word to more people. This summer I taught in a summer research program for undergraduates. I included information on WCG in one of my lectures. Also as part of their research project, the four students in my research group joined WCG. At the final symposium for all the students in programs like this throughout the state, my kids gave a presentation on volunteer computing in which they described the projects they themselves were crunching and shared their experience. Their audience was really interested -- they got lots of eager questions. This experience made me very optimistic about the potential for young people to spread the word amongst themselves and really help WCG grow.  |
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Jack007
Master Cruncher CANADA Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Post Count: 1604 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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personally if a build a better battery project came up i would probably swap to that since in the whole scene of non constant flow energy production (solar/wind) if its night or not windy you are generating nothing and current battery technology needs ALOT of work Absolutely, about 6 months ago I was reading about capacitors and ultra caps, and just a week ago started reading again, and my oh my the change that has been fueled by electric car and hybrid! check out Energ2 (I think that's them) near Seattle. I would be all over crunching that too! In my head I'm having a race with WCG, can I get all sapphire before they bring out new projects? (I'm losing but that's ok lol)  |
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roundup
Veteran Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jul 25, 2006 Post Count: 843 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/32422.wss Good reading! "The University of Virginia Watershed Sustainability Project will use World Community Grid to power its "UVa Bay Game/Analytics" project, which models the effects of agricultural, commercial and industrial decisions on the Chesapeake Bay. This waterway is a vital estuary on the East Coast of the United States stretching 64,000 square miles with 11,600 miles of tidal shoreline, and home to nearly 17 million people. It will simulate and analyze the results of choices made by the sometimes-competing interests of fishermen, farmers, real estate developers, power plant designers, conservationists, forestry experts and urban planners. Better understanding the potential outcomes of complex, intersecting decisions can help society manage the watershed more effectively." A third initiative, to be run on World Community Grid out of Brazil's Inforium Bioinformatics, in collaboration with FIOCRUZ-Minas, is seeking to cure schistosomiasis, a significant, parasite-based disease prevalent in tropical regions that is incubated and transmitted via foul water. The World Health Organization lists this disease as highly necessary to control. It kills from 11,000 to 200,000 people every year and infects about 210 million individuals in 76 countries. It takes a severe toll on undeveloped countries, causing about 1.7 million disability-adjusted life-years of burden annually. While the drug Praziquantel has been largely effective in treating the disease for more than 25 years, drug-resistant strains are of concern. "Researchers will now seek to identify human protein targets for possible new drug treatments. They will use the World Community Grid to screen up to 13 million compounds found in the zinc.docking.org database against 180 protein structures involved with the parasite. While this may not lead to new drugs immediately, it will greatly augment the study of this disease by scientists around the world." I didn't read anything new on this since months. Are there any news on those projects? Or any other hints on new projects in the WCG pipeline? Crunchy sunday  |
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Former Member
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Hello roundup,
I didn't read anything new on this since months. Are there any news on those projects? Or any other hints on new projects in the WCG pipeline? Nothing new has been announced. I know that some work is going on in the background, but I am waiting to hear anything authoritative.  Lawrence |
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roundup
Veteran Cruncher Switzerland Joined: Jul 25, 2006 Post Count: 843 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi Lawrence,
thanks for the info. I know that WCG always has been very cautious with announcements on any future activities. That was the reason I was very surprised about the IBM press realease under the link above. I am curious what you come up with next :-) |
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Former Member
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I am curious what you come up with next :-) Two possibles if speaking out of school: 1) Dentals, including the polyester kind of dining set in a bowl 2) A set of 2 of something else, sautéed, also in a bowl. Being CA is a walking a very fine line... some is told and it always starts with: "For your eyes only!"  |
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Falconet
Master Cruncher Portugal Joined: Mar 9, 2009 Post Count: 3315 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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This article is in Portuguese and it isn't official although it quotes some scientists but with no sources.
----------------------------------------http://robertobr.blogspot.com/2011/04/world-community-grid-wcg-diminuira-o.html Use Google translator to read it. Short story, it says that it will be in it's final stage in the end of the second semester of 2011 and explains what will be done in the project. Again, it's not official  - AMD Ryzen 5 1600AF 6C/12T 3.2 GHz - 85W - AMD Ryzen 5 2500U 4C/8T 2.0 GHz - 28W - AMD Ryzen 7 7730U 8C/16T 3.0 GHz [Edit 1 times, last edit by Falconet at May 31, 2011 9:03:27 PM] |
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