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Re: Can you do more with less? 106.5 Floating Point MIPS/W

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/LandingPages/AMD/FX/

Looks like they are fairly cheap to boot. As for the wattage issue most models are sold with a 600 or 700 watt power supply that you can chose to upgrade with a higher wattage if you want to spend more.
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Re: Can you do more with less? 106.5 Floating Point MIPS/W

Don't forget Nov 14, SB-Extreme!
Although those who want price per watt will be disappointed by
the 125 TDP. Nope, 130 TDP. Anyway still 583 dollar 6 core
beastly machine. I still like the idea of finally getting a 2 socket
moboard and a sandy bridge xeon FOR SAME PRICE (each).
Mobo will be pretty penny though I'm sure.
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Until applications use optimized coding the performance will not be too special. Going by some reviews it looks more like a match for an i7-920 than an i7-2600K.
I see they have implemented throttling at 81 degrees C.

Some of the maths tests show a big difference between Int and Fl.pt performance, so questions for WCG:
Which current projects are best suited to this processor (points per day)?
Do you plan to augment any app code to better facilitate these CPU's?

Do all BD's come with a stethoscope?

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It has a small place though; at the same price as an i5-2500K but slightly more powerful, but at the expense of being way more power hungry.

Moving swiftly on,
I see an i7-2700K (with an extra 100MHz) is due out, and there is another AMD rumor; an FX-8170 (200MHz faster supposedly) - don't know why they bother.
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skgiven

It's a good job they do

It causes progress in speed and efficiency and mantains sanity in pricing
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http://www.arm.com/about/newsroom/arm-disclos...-the-arm-architecture.php

I wonder how much longer X86 and it's derivatives will dominate?
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...and the i7-2700K duly turned up 4days ago; an extra $15 for an extra 100MHz (3% performance hop). I guess they will wait a while and then release an i7-2800K or similar. Perhaps an i7-2900K as well in the distant future. Then they run out of numbers or would confuse everyone by using 3000 number range (different generation).

Arm 8 and Windows 8:
Windows will support Arm on small handheld devices, extending to notebooks, desktops and even cloud servers. The addition of x64 for Arm is nothing short of a frontal attack on AMD and Intel, right across the CPU range. x64 was required for the server end of the market (memory addressing), but should facilitate better acceptance by Windows 8, which I fully expect to be released in 2012 and a server version of the operating system to turn up around a year later (perhaps slightly sooner this time).

Arm's X-Gene will allow from 2 to 128 cores up to 3GHz each, and each core will use up to only 2W when in use (0.5W when not). This covers hand held devices through to cloud servers. X-Gene processors will turn up in 40nm to 28nm; sizes more akin to GPU's than CPU's. The speculation is that these will be 3times as efficient as the latest dual skt Intel server processors. We will have to wait until mid/late 2012 to have any real idea but they should be very competitive; 40nm is now well proven, especially for such small chips (good yields = good price). My guess is that we wont see 128core versions until W8 Server is available, or maybe later, but the processors should be 28nm by then.

I dare say it will be a few years before we can crunch on one, but I quite fancy a 384GHz system that uses <300W.
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Re: Can you do more with less? 106.5 Floating Point MIPS/W

For those who REALLY like to play, this article entitled "Spaniards prototype ARM-GPU hybrid supercomputer" says that "The system board ... is now available as a development system" and suggests it may only be "around $500".

Let us know if anyone experiments with this baby.
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http://www.raspberrypi.org/

Starts Manufacture

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Why my Country should ditch the "Great"


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I recently had a stealth Electricity Price Hike

Instead of just putting up the prices and getting the bad publicity as they did in Jan and October

How about scrapping the tariff you are currently on and offering to increase your electric bill by 53.7% by putting you on a standard tariff

That should do it

When you ring up to complain they offer their current best which is

41.16p/day standing charge (There's £150 a year ($232) right off the bat for .... nothing - the last embedded in the higher first units rate "standing charge" was £54.30)


then it's

14.76p /KWh (22.8 cents) Day Units
5.18p/KWh (8 cents) Midnight till 7am


Back in October (The last increase)

First 728KWh per year £0.1978 inc VAT ($0.3136/KWh)
Unit rate after 728KWh £0.1232 inc VAT ($0.1953/KWh)
Night Rate Midnight until 7am £0.0489 inc VAT ($0.0775/KWh)



Which by any measure is another price rise !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Can you do more with less? 106.5 Floating Point MIPS/W

I finally went Bulldozer and all I can say is that it has had a bad press

It's matching the Phenom II clock for clock and you get a whole load more of them

On paper the 125W TDP FX8150 does not look like one of the greenest CPU's available

It's still in the bedding in/tweaking phase and is living on one memory stick borrowed from the lean green crunching machine so it's a bit hemmed in at the mo.

The 6 cores of the 95W version of the Phenom II makes 15.83W/core

The 8 cores of the 125W FX8150 makes 15.63 W/core so just a slight edge

..throw in the fact that each core is crunching at 1.4 * the rate of the Phenom II cores...and bingo

There's the difference biggrin

65W Phenom II 905E =10Ghz 153.85Mhz/W (tdp)
95W Phenom II 1055T = 18Ghz (Cores OC'ed to 3Ghz) 189.47Mhz/W (tdp)
125W FX8150 = 33.8Ghz (Cores OC'ed to 4.2Ghz) 270.4Mhz/W (tdp)

That's over a 75% increase in number crunching power per watt since this thread kicked off less than 2 years ago shock


I'll get back to you wink I think my 134.5 Floating Point MIPS per Watt at the socket will be threatened


(On the GPU front I've followed the same principles - time will tell)
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